Richmond residents canvass for ‘private police force’
Discussion
Residents of the London borough of Richmond are ‘canvassing support for privately funded police force’ to patrol the area, amid concerns for rising crime.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/richmond-...
Not sure how I feel about this.
On the one hand, I’ve often wondered why wealthy areas or wealthy villages don’t all pay a monthly fee per house to have 24hr security patrolling to ensure the area remains crime free.
But, if that sort of thing started to become more popular, it would just be an excuse for the government to reduce funding to an already stretched police force.
I know that the Jewish community have the CST which seems to work for them.
Thoughts?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/richmond-...
Not sure how I feel about this.
On the one hand, I’ve often wondered why wealthy areas or wealthy villages don’t all pay a monthly fee per house to have 24hr security patrolling to ensure the area remains crime free.
But, if that sort of thing started to become more popular, it would just be an excuse for the government to reduce funding to an already stretched police force.
I know that the Jewish community have the CST which seems to work for them.
Thoughts?
Good idea on paper, but how long til such private security becomes a target for the organised crime gangs to infiltrate / target?
I think it would be better to allow communities to sponsor their own officer (s), of course that would never be allowed as it would be seen as elitism. Ironic since such "elite" neighbourhoods are the ones that generally have a good deal less requirement for the police service.
I dont know how true it is, but my mate an ex copper always said about 80% of their work was a result of about 2% of the population!
I think it would be better to allow communities to sponsor their own officer (s), of course that would never be allowed as it would be seen as elitism. Ironic since such "elite" neighbourhoods are the ones that generally have a good deal less requirement for the police service.
I dont know how true it is, but my mate an ex copper always said about 80% of their work was a result of about 2% of the population!
I live in rural Lancs.
In my area there is a private 'police force' available 24 hours a day, only a phone call away - farmers.
I'm not sure how this would work in bedwetter-land, perhaps they ought to try it.
Their forte is the persuasion of the Rathkeale Caravan Club to move elsewhere, the dispersal of the contents of septic tanks in the immediate vicinity of said community is 100% effective.
Lord Marylebone said:
I’ve often wondered why wealthy areas or wealthy villages don’t all pay a monthly fee per house to have 24hr security patrolling to ensure the area remains crime free...
... Thoughts?
A few years back I worked in a small town outside of Cape Town for a while, we got put up in a sort of B&B owned by a member of local staff.... Thoughts?
As we arrived through some big gates and unloaded the hire car, we were told it was quite a safe where we were staying, as they had private security.
At which point a Bakky (small pick up) cruised past, the driver giving a cheery wave to the rdsidents, and in the back was stood another man, resting his automatic rifle on the roll bar above the cab.
It took me by surprise somewhat, I explained how that where I lived, seeing people cruising around with automatic rifles would tend to be to mean I was in an unsafe area.
Later that evening, we walked to a local bar for some beers. The B&B owner was quite adamant that if the community gates were locked when we returned after kicking out time, to ring her. DO NOT in any circumstances attempt to climb over the wall in the dark. You can guess why.
Teddy Lop said:
Doesn't this already exist in some areas? See a lot of rentacops around the mcmansions of Hadley wood/totteridge
Indeed there are. Seen them in some of the private roads around Stanmore and Bushey also. One of our friends live on a private road which has a security guard and barrier in place 24/7. Been like that for years and I always get a full on interrogation every time I visitcroissant said:
Indeed there are. Seen them in some of the private roads around Stanmore and Bushey also. One of our friends live on a private road which has a security guard and barrier in place 24/7. Been like that for years and I always get a full on interrogation every time I visit
Last year I bought a Porsche in a private sale, from an small area of Liverpool which had large gated houses (I think the area was called Roby?) When I was chatting to the seller he seemed far more interested in telling me how expensive the area was where he lived. He pointed at the mansion next door and proudly told me that “Wayne Rooney had just bought it for his mum and moved her in” and “That guy who lives over there is the top Barrister in the whole of Liverpool” etc
It was really, really bizarre. Like he was trying to show such a display of wealth that I would think the car must be amazing or something.
But what struck me was that there was high metal railing fences and private security devices/signage everywhere, all over the houses and the road leading to them.
When I drove up to the gates of the house, a voice boomed out of a loudspeaker telling me I was being watched and asking what I wanted.
Even once I was inside ‘the grounds’ there were sensors and speakers on posts all round the garden which at one point while we were stood talking on the drive ‘went off’ and again asked us to “identify ourselves” and the owner has to walk over towards one of the camera/microphones and state his credentials.
My mate who had driven me there to see the car, got fed up with the guy whittering on about how nice the area was, how important his neighbours were, and how big his house was and said “I live in a really nice area as well mate, but my house doesn’t have to be surrounded by machine gun towers and searchlights. What sort of place is this?”
Lord Marylebone said:
My mate who had driven me there to see the car, got fed up with the guy whittering on about how nice the area was, how important his neighbours were, and how big his house was and said “I live in a really nice area as well mate, but my house doesn’t have to be surrounded by machine gun towers and searchlights. What sort of place is this?”
Lord Marylebone said:
croissant said:
Indeed there are. Seen them in some of the private roads around Stanmore and Bushey also. One of our friends live on a private road which has a security guard and barrier in place 24/7. Been like that for years and I always get a full on interrogation every time I visit
Last year I bought a Porsche in a private sale, from an small area of Liverpool which had large gated houses (I think the area was called Roby?) When I was chatting to the seller he seemed far more interested in telling me how expensive the area was where he lived. He pointed at the mansion next door and proudly told me that “Wayne Rooney had just bought it for his mum and moved her in” and “That guy who lives over there is the top Barrister in the whole of Liverpool” etc
It was really, really bizarre. Like he was trying to show such a display of wealth that I would think the car must be amazing or something.
But what struck me was that there was high metal railing fences and private security devices/signage everywhere, all over the houses and the road leading to them.
When I drove up to the gates of the house, a voice boomed out of a loudspeaker telling me I was being watched and asking what I wanted.
Even once I was inside ‘the grounds’ there were sensors and speakers on posts all round the garden which at one point while we were stood talking on the drive ‘went off’ and again asked us to “identify ourselves” and the owner has to walk over towards one of the camera/microphones and state his credentials.
My mate who had driven me there to see the car, got fed up with the guy whittering on about how nice the area was, how important his neighbours were, and how big his house was and said “I live in a really nice area as well mate, but my house doesn’t have to be surrounded by machine gun towers and searchlights. What sort of place is this?”
CloudStuff said:
Considerably safer than yow.
He did strike me as the Liverpudlian version of Harry Enfield's Brummy 'Richer than yow' character But seriously, if that's what 'a reasonably expensive area of Liverpool' is like, then you can firmly class me as not interested in living there.
Lord Marylebone said:
Last year I bought a Porsche in a private sale, from an small area of Liverpool which had large gated houses (I think the area was called Roby?)
When I was chatting to the seller he seemed far more interested in telling me how expensive the area was where he lived. He pointed at the mansion next door and proudly told me that “Wayne Rooney had just bought it for his mum and moved her in” and “That guy who lives over there is the top Barrister in the whole of Liverpool” etc
It was really, really bizarre. Like he was trying to show such a display of wealth that I would think the car must be amazing or something.
But what struck me was that there was high metal railing fences and private security devices/signage everywhere, all over the houses and the road leading to them.
When I drove up to the gates of the house, a voice boomed out of a loudspeaker telling me I was being watched and asking what I wanted.
Even once I was inside ‘the grounds’ there were sensors and speakers on posts all round the garden which at one point while we were stood talking on the drive ‘went off’ and again asked us to “identify ourselves” and the owner has to walk over towards one of the camera/microphones and state his credentials.
My mate who had driven me there to see the car, got fed up with the guy whittering on about how nice the area was, how important his neighbours were, and how big his house was and said “I live in a really nice area as well mate, but my house doesn’t have to be surrounded by machine gun towers and searchlights. What sort of place is this?”
I’ve always been of the view that people who live in places like that do so in order to slow down the Police on their dawn raids. When I was chatting to the seller he seemed far more interested in telling me how expensive the area was where he lived. He pointed at the mansion next door and proudly told me that “Wayne Rooney had just bought it for his mum and moved her in” and “That guy who lives over there is the top Barrister in the whole of Liverpool” etc
It was really, really bizarre. Like he was trying to show such a display of wealth that I would think the car must be amazing or something.
But what struck me was that there was high metal railing fences and private security devices/signage everywhere, all over the houses and the road leading to them.
When I drove up to the gates of the house, a voice boomed out of a loudspeaker telling me I was being watched and asking what I wanted.
Even once I was inside ‘the grounds’ there were sensors and speakers on posts all round the garden which at one point while we were stood talking on the drive ‘went off’ and again asked us to “identify ourselves” and the owner has to walk over towards one of the camera/microphones and state his credentials.
My mate who had driven me there to see the car, got fed up with the guy whittering on about how nice the area was, how important his neighbours were, and how big his house was and said “I live in a really nice area as well mate, but my house doesn’t have to be surrounded by machine gun towers and searchlights. What sort of place is this?”
poo at Paul's said:
Good idea on paper, but how long til such private security becomes a target for the organised crime gangs to infiltrate / target?
One of the guys behind this has already been the target of an OCG hit when he was a copper, I'm sure he'll do his homework on prospective employees. Lord Marylebone said:
CloudStuff said:
Considerably safer than yow.
He did strike me as the Liverpudlian version of Harry Enfield's Brummy 'Richer than yow' character But seriously, if that's what 'a reasonably expensive area of Liverpool' is like, then you can firmly class me as not interested in living there.
1. It's going to attract the attention of nefarious ne'er-do-wells
2. People are going to take steps to safeguard themselves and their cash.
Basically the more you have the more steps you'll take to secure it.
Lord Marylebone said:
Last year I bought a Porsche in a private sale, from an small area of Liverpool which had large gated houses (I think the area was called Roby?)
When I was chatting to the seller he seemed far more interested in telling me how expensive the area was where he lived. He pointed at the mansion next door and proudly told me that “Wayne Rooney had just bought it for his mum and moved her in” and “That guy who lives over there is the top Barrister in the whole of Liverpool” etc
It was really, really bizarre. Like he was trying to show such a display of wealth that I would think the car must be amazing or something.
But what struck me was that there was high metal railing fences and private security devices/signage everywhere, all over the houses and the road leading to them.
When I drove up to the gates of the house, a voice boomed out of a loudspeaker telling me I was being watched and asking what I wanted.
Even once I was inside ‘the grounds’ there were sensors and speakers on posts all round the garden which at one point while we were stood talking on the drive ‘went off’ and again asked us to “identify ourselves” and the owner has to walk over towards one of the camera/microphones and state his credentials.
My mate who had driven me there to see the car, got fed up with the guy whittering on about how nice the area was, how important his neighbours were, and how big his house was and said “I live in a really nice area as well mate, but my house doesn’t have to be surrounded by machine gun towers and searchlights. What sort of place is this?”
This is the most Liverpool story of the week. When I was chatting to the seller he seemed far more interested in telling me how expensive the area was where he lived. He pointed at the mansion next door and proudly told me that “Wayne Rooney had just bought it for his mum and moved her in” and “That guy who lives over there is the top Barrister in the whole of Liverpool” etc
It was really, really bizarre. Like he was trying to show such a display of wealth that I would think the car must be amazing or something.
But what struck me was that there was high metal railing fences and private security devices/signage everywhere, all over the houses and the road leading to them.
When I drove up to the gates of the house, a voice boomed out of a loudspeaker telling me I was being watched and asking what I wanted.
Even once I was inside ‘the grounds’ there were sensors and speakers on posts all round the garden which at one point while we were stood talking on the drive ‘went off’ and again asked us to “identify ourselves” and the owner has to walk over towards one of the camera/microphones and state his credentials.
My mate who had driven me there to see the car, got fed up with the guy whittering on about how nice the area was, how important his neighbours were, and how big his house was and said “I live in a really nice area as well mate, but my house doesn’t have to be surrounded by machine gun towers and searchlights. What sort of place is this?”
Showing off? Check
Chatty gobs
te? CheckProperty crime? Check
Wayne Rooney? Check
Just missing 'drinking with Paul McCartney' and Hillsborough for the full Monty.
BlackWidow13 said:
I’ve always been of the view that people who live in places like that do so in order to slow down the Police on their dawn raids.
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