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drseg

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494 posts

255 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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went to fix master cyl
some unmentionable has run into the back of it bending spring hanger mounting and slightly twisting bumper insured and all that but where do you get a jago fixed?
so i started with chains to lada and shocking it out makes a good gigantic slide hammer - cept chain kept breaking
then jacking up on a stilson and jumping on bumper
its within a couple of mm now
will return with bigger stilson and a scaff bar later in week
i like agricultural engineering lol
then weirdest master cyl change ever
all came off went on ok rear bled seemingly ok
fronts blowing air and then sucking even with pipe in brake fluid - seemed not to be able to suck fluid from master cyl after over an hour of trying got pedal pumped and hit cyl with a hammer
hey presto 5 mins later good pedal afy=ter simple bleed
think front piston may have stuck - it was a dodgy looking one donated off Tonkas scrapper [cheers M8]
but didnt have time to fit shocks or attempt to put the 3rd leaf off a mk 1 spring under the single mk2 spring
3rd has clamps rivetted to it so even though mk 1 spring is narrower should still provide a little assistance for when the camping gears on board [ i hope]
anyone else ever tried a codge of this type?
if it dont work or is crap wont take long to remove
worth a try?

jon4648

161 posts

245 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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Re Spring bodge, years ago I had an old London Taxi - FX4 (for the anoracks with 2.2 diesel). A previous owner had used it to tow a caravan. The rear springs were fitted with spring assisters which were very like the bodge you are describing.

However the above does not answer your question. Were they effective?

I think so because I removed them from the Taxi and fitted them to an old Luton bodied Commer PB which I reguarly used to overload doing "Man & Van" Jobs.

drseg

Original Poster:

494 posts

255 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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got some spring assistors on my consul
they put more bend at the rear of the spring
well this type do
cant do any harm can it ?
adding another leaf?

boldfish

53 posts

268 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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I recall buying some spring assisters for one of my Jagos - towing shops do them - a sort of bolt on upside down spring thing - but found that they didn't do enough - it still bottomed out, then I discovered coil over adjustable shocks - well worth the money - you get a smoother ride, more progressive damping and no bottoming out (well only when carrying 12 or more occupants over a bumpy field!)

I have no idea where to get them, monroe I think they were.



IanA

472 posts

286 months

Monday 27th June 2005
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I used those McKinney (?) Spring Assisters on my first 105E jeep. Used to take loads of computer paper to the scrappy. Worked for me.
Cheers
Ian

drseg

Original Poster:

494 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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looked at some second hand coilovers at newark - were off erm.... cant remember but was a very small fwd car
looked a similar size - may take a shock round the scrappies see if i can match one
was a weord little car suzuki hyundai kia sommat like that - which i thought with the leaf may be a possibility
but i'll see how spax and codge leaf works first
with buggered shox only a real hassle with camping gear onboard
air shaox used to be the "thing"
probably all to dear for me lol
anyone ever tried to attatch those sierra "progressive" bump stops to a geep?
were only fitted cos sierra rear end didnt work [early sierra] very long funny looking bump stops i seem to remember
hmmm scrapping a mk3 granada must look under back of that
kinda a big sierra

boldfish

53 posts

268 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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These look something like the ones I fitted, although I don't think I paid anywhere near £200 a pair!

demon tweaks page

jon4648

161 posts

245 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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Another source of coilovers might be your local friendly motorcycle breaker. - One advantage of motorcycle units is that even those fitted to the most basic commuter machines have adjustable spring preload.

drseg

Original Poster:

494 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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hmmm bikes
theres a good idea
will investigate further i think

drseg

Original Poster:

494 posts

255 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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200 quid is certainly much too dear
anyway went back to geep today jacked axle standed etc
took off old shox
no resistance to being compressed but some to being stretched compared to spaxs i got off a club member they were like a bicycle pump
I ummed and arred about fitting the mk 1 3rd leaf as a helper it really does take quite a lot when camping so went ahead
just a little higher a little stiffer and with 2 of us jumping up and down on the back bumper - no bottoming much much less tramp too
i can recomend this as a bit of a cheap codge
the bad news it my staved in front prob joint is buggered
rear joint cost me 70 quid
oh well has to be done for harrogate
i still have brakes too
[3x ty mark]