Suicidal Thoughts
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Psycho Warren

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3,087 posts

142 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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Before any one panics and thinks I'm about to jump off a bridge, that is not the case! I have no suicidal plans - this is more about the longterm impact of mental health and impact of a previous suicide attempt and thoughts.

Having been nuts before and only being alive as I was discovered mid suicide attempt, I wonder about the aspect of suicidal thoughts in your head. Obviously when i was very ill, I had very much active plans and ideas to end my life. Since my recovery this is no longer the case.

However, I still routinely think about suicide. Not because Im thinking of doing it. Its just in my mind. Can be random or (often lately) triggered by news of other suicides amongst people i know etc - and sadly there is a lot of it about.

Should I be worried that I have these feelings? I kind of think its like once you "open the box" your mind always sees it as a "valid option" or "solution" to lives problems where as someone who hasn't been that ill in the past wouldn't necessarily think about it in that way.

I have thought about speaking to a shrink/counsellor but I imagine that would just raise red flags that and make them think I am at risk.

Anybody else who has been suicidal in the past still get the thoughts?

Its the same with self harm - That was a coping skill for me when seriously ill and again, although I have no intentions of doing it, the thoughts of cutting are still there.

Just thought I'd throw that out there as theres a good few fellow nutters on PH so am interested to hear your thoughts.

A500leroy

8,406 posts

147 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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im just waiting till my family have died before i do it so theres no one left to pick up the pieces

Big_Dog

995 posts

214 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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I tend to remind myself that it is a very permanent solution to an often temporary problem. The older I get the less there is to lose but I have more experience of the problems being temporary. The repercussions on those left behind can be serious and long lasting.

HustleRussell

26,500 posts

189 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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Big_Dog said:
I tend to remind myself that it is a very permanent solution to an often temporary problem.
Great way of putting it. there have been periods of my life when I would have morbid thoughts every day but I believe you get one shot at life and there's nothing after so you owe it to yourself and those around you to just live in the best way that you can. Fortunately those dark periods are a distant memory now.

tribalsurfer

1,251 posts

148 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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A500leroy said:
im just waiting till my family have died before i do it so theres no one left to pick up the pieces
Genuinely hoping that this is a sick joke, if it is not, you need to reach out to someone now. It's never too late to find the fix to any problem.

guards red

689 posts

229 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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A500leroy said:
im just waiting till my family have died before i do it so theres no one left to pick up the pieces
You should think about speaking to someone. I've had some st times lately but there's always a chance to turn things around. There should be for you too, talk to someone.

Red9zero

11,199 posts

86 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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guards red said:
A500leroy said:
im just waiting till my family have died before i do it so theres no one left to pick up the pieces
You should think about speaking to someone. I've had some st times lately but there's always a chance to turn things around. There should be for you too, talk to someone.
Definately. Call the Samaritans now.

A500leroy

8,406 posts

147 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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no ive been planning it for a while now ( see my other threads) and genuinely when my folks have passed over in about 10 yrs time, im going to join them and leave this nasty crappy pointless earthly existence behind.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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A500leroy said:
no ive been planning it for a while now ( see my other threads) and genuinely when my folks have passed over in about 10 yrs time, im going to join them and leave this nasty crappy pointless earthly existence behind.
What's your plan for the 10 years leading up to that?

HustleRussell

26,500 posts

189 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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There is a trend in mental health threads recently. An OP starts a thread about his or her own mental health concerns. Leroy pops up, posts about his own and then the thread becomes a back and forth of well meaning people giving Leroy advice and Leroy point blank refusing to do anything at all to help himself. I would encourage Leroy to start his own thread.

ETA: I realise this post looks callous in isolation.

A500leroy

8,406 posts

147 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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HustleRussell said:
There is a trend in mental health threads recently. An OP starts a thread about his or her own mental health concerns. Leroy pops up, posts about his own and then the thread becomes a back and forth of well meaning people giving Leroy advice and Leroy point blank refusing to do anything at all to help himself. I would encourage Leroy to start his own thread.

ETA: I realise this post looks callous in isolation.
Dont worry about mate im not, the op asked for peoples expediences and ive offered my view point of my life.

A500leroy

8,406 posts

147 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
no ive been planning it for a while now ( see my other threads) and genuinely when my folks have passed over in about 10 yrs time, im going to join them and leave this nasty crappy pointless earthly existence behind.
What's your plan for the 10 years leading up to that?
10 miserable yrs of get up, work, eat, shot,sleep repeat, ( thats all i do anyway)

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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A500leroy said:
AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
no ive been planning it for a while now ( see my other threads) and genuinely when my folks have passed over in about 10 yrs time, im going to join them and leave this nasty crappy pointless earthly existence behind.
What's your plan for the 10 years leading up to that?
10 miserable yrs of get up, work, eat, shot,sleep repeat, ( thats all i do anyway)
Do your folks know you want to end your life?

A500leroy

8,406 posts

147 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
no ive been planning it for a while now ( see my other threads) and genuinely when my folks have passed over in about 10 yrs time, im going to join them and leave this nasty crappy pointless earthly existence behind.
What's your plan for the 10 years leading up to that?
10 miserable yrs of get up, work, eat, shot,sleep repeat, ( thats all i do anyway)
Do your folks know you want to end your life?
of course not thats the whole point of waiting till theyve gone.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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A500leroy said:
AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
no ive been planning it for a while now ( see my other threads) and genuinely when my folks have passed over in about 10 yrs time, im going to join them and leave this nasty crappy pointless earthly existence behind.
What's your plan for the 10 years leading up to that?
10 miserable yrs of get up, work, eat, shot,sleep repeat, ( thats all i do anyway)
Do your folks know you want to end your life?
of course not thats the whole point of waiting till theyve gone.
Why not talk to them about it?

A500leroy

8,406 posts

147 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
no ive been planning it for a while now ( see my other threads) and genuinely when my folks have passed over in about 10 yrs time, im going to join them and leave this nasty crappy pointless earthly existence behind.
What's your plan for the 10 years leading up to that?
10 miserable yrs of get up, work, eat, shot,sleep repeat, ( thats all i do anyway)
Do your folks know you want to end your life?
of course not thats the whole point of waiting till theyve gone.
Why not talk to them about it?
they are old and ill, they dont need any more distress,Anyway the threads not about me, the op wants peoples expierences

HustleRussell

26,500 posts

189 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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Psycho Warren said:
I have thought about speaking to a shrink/counsellor but I imagine that would just raise red flags that and make them think I am at risk.
What is the negative consequence of that though? You think that someone will find you and put you in a straight jacket hehe

I don’t really know the answer to your question of whether it is ‘normal’ to have these thoughts, but as a person who was in a low place and decided to get help, I think there is huge value in talking to some kind of therapist.

I am not very happy at the moment because of circumstances. That is fine. However,I’m a bit more mindful of what’s going on in my head these days, as a result of previous therapy- and I find myself less prone to the kind of negative spiral type of scenario as a result.

s2sol

1,276 posts

200 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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Red9zero said:
guards red said:
A500leroy said:
im just waiting till my family have died before i do it so theres no one left to pick up the pieces
You should think about speaking to someone. I've had some st times lately but there's always a chance to turn things around. There should be for you too, talk to someone.
Definately. Call the Samaritans now.
As desperately sad as this sounds, I reckon it's a legitimate and considered answer to the question. I would happily plan the end of my life once certain milestones have been passed.

I've told my wife that I'd happily be euthanised on or around my 80th birthday, assuming I live that long, of course. I've got people in my life that I love and want to be there for, and I don't ever want to be a burden for them.

If Leroy wants to check out once his parents die, that should be fine, if that's all he's got to keep him going. I hope that he finds something worth living for in the interim, and I'd be surprised if he doesn't.


HustleRussell

26,500 posts

189 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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Euthanasia in old age is a very different topic from suicidal thoughts.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 9th October 2020
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A500leroy said:
AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
AJ5641 said:
A500leroy said:
no ive been planning it for a while now ( see my other threads) and genuinely when my folks have passed over in about 10 yrs time, im going to join them and leave this nasty crappy pointless earthly existence behind.
What's your plan for the 10 years leading up to that?
10 miserable yrs of get up, work, eat, shot,sleep repeat, ( thats all i do anyway)
Do your folks know you want to end your life?
of course not thats the whole point of waiting till theyve gone.
Why not talk to them about it?
they are old and ill, they dont need any more distress,Anyway the threads not about me, the op wants peoples expierences
Have you spoke to a professional about how you feel?