To lunch or not to lunch?
To lunch or not to lunch?
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Simpo Two

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92,709 posts

294 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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On Thursday I'm due to join three friends for a pub lunch in Woodbridge, Suffolk. We're all about 59. One has already had Covid and recovered, one is a lecturer and the other one doesn't care.

It will be too cold to sit outside so we'll have to eat inside. Do I go?

RedAndy

1,291 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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...depends. where are you thinking of going? Some nice places in Woodbridge, some are just overpriced
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RedAndy

1,291 posts

183 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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oh, and who is picking up the tab? if it's free, then it doesnt matter where you go.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Do you currently go to the office?

Do you feel comfortable ?

What are the local infection rates?

Are you fat/ out of breath walking up a normal flight of stairs/do you sweat in generally cool conditions whilst everyone else is ice cool like Prince Andrew

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

92,709 posts

294 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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RedAndy said:
...depends. where are you thinking of going? Some nice places in Woodbridge, some are just overpriced
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Our researcher has done some homework and proposes the King’s Head or the Cherry Tree 'because the tables are very well spaced and we can sit near a door'. Well, the door won't be open because it's cold outside, and even if it was, it might blow fresh air in, or it might blow everybody's else stale air past us.

Price not important.

Welshbeef said:
Do you currently go to the office?

Do you feel comfortable ?

What are the local infection rates?

Are you fat/ out of breath walking up a normal flight of stairs/do you sweat in generally cool conditions whilst everyone else is ice cool like Prince Andrew
1) No, retired
2) Physically or mentally?
3) Not sure but IIRC Suffolk is not high. That said, everywhere is going up.
4) No.

mcelliott

10,494 posts

210 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Go and enjoy your lunch man!

MYOB

5,126 posts

167 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Go and live your life.

PrinceRupert

11,631 posts

114 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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This thread epitomises the very confusing COVID19 messaging from the Government. Liverpool is a VERY HIGH RISK area. Yet restaurants are open and presumably it is okay to go to them ...

hyphen

26,262 posts

119 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Are you higher risk OP, or not.

That info is kinda important!

PositronicRay

28,977 posts

212 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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I'd go. I do, just a bit more picky.

sherman

15,222 posts

244 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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As long as you know its safe go and enjoy yourself.

Simpo Two

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92,709 posts

294 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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PrinceRupert said:
This thread epitomises the very confusing COVID19 messaging from the Government. Liverpool is a VERY HIGH RISK area. Yet restaurants are open and presumably it is okay to go to them ...
It's actually just me trying to work out the risk of getting infected by people I'm sharing a room with for maybe two hours. Simple epidemiology.

The fact is that the risk, and what therefore precautions one should take, are infinitely variable. Official advice cannot cover all 70 million people one by one so it has to be 'one-size-fits-all' - just like speed limits.

hyphen said:
Are you higher risk OP, or not. That info is kinda important!
Only on age, a bit.

sherman said:
As long as you know its safe go and enjoy yourself.
That's the issue. Nothing, in any context, can be 'safe'. It's a question of probability.

PrinceRupert

11,631 posts

114 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Simpo Two said:
It's actually just me trying to work out the risk of getting infected by people I'm sharing a room with for maybe two hours. Simple epidemiology.

The fact is that the risk, and what therefore precautions one should take, are infinitely variable. Official advice cannot cover all 70 million people one by one so it has to be 'one-size-fits-all' - just like speed limits.
The risk depends on whether any of your companions have it, which is unlikely.

Surely the more important question was if you were to get it, what is the risk of you getting seriously ill or dying. Are you old, do you have other health issues, are you fat, do you smoke excessively etc. If the answer is no, then not only is the risk of you catching it small, the risk of you getting seriously ill or dying is also small. Two small probabilities multiplied together make for a very small probability ...

GT03ROB

14,023 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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CV is going to be out there for the rest of your life. Will you never go out to lunch again?

Simpo Two

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294 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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PrinceRupert said:
The risk depends on whether any of your companions have it, which is unlikely.
As stated at the top, one has caught it (from his son's girlfriend). He's not stupid, but he still got it, and I don't know how long it takes to be non-infectious. The lecturer may well have been meeting students and could be asymptomatic or may go down with it the next day. In short there's no way of telling. Part of me thinks yes I may as well get it and get the bloody thing over with, but then again, I'd still rather avoid it if possible.

Like everything, it's a gamble. I'm sure most of the ~15K people every day who get it thought they wouldn't.

PositronicRay

28,977 posts

212 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Simpo Two said:
PrinceRupert said:
The risk depends on whether any of your companions have it, which is unlikely.
As stated at the top, one has caught it (from his son's girlfriend). He's not stupid, but he still got it, and I don't know how long it takes to be non-infectious. The lecturer may well have been meeting students and could be asymptomatic or may go down with it the next day. In short there's no way of telling. Part of me thinks yes I may as well get it and get the bloody thing over with, but then again, I'd still rather avoid it if possible.

Like everything, it's a gamble. I'm sure most of the ~15K people every day who get it thought they wouldn't.
I'm not paranoid about contracting CV,. But avoid the riskier places, I don't want to be a situation where track and trace ask me to self isolate.

pequod

8,997 posts

167 months

Tuesday 13th October 2020
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Simpo Two said:
On Thursday I'm due to join three friends for a pub lunch in Woodbridge, Suffolk. We're all about 59. One has already had Covid and recovered, one is a lecturer and the other one doesn't care.

It will be too cold to sit outside so we'll have to eat inside. Do I go?
Interesting question, Simpo, and we are much older than you.

I have been awaiting the call for months to rejoin my chums for a lunch, as we used to do every so often, and the damned fear of catching C19 has put the mockers on it, apparently!

I do wonder if this madness will be over before we all die of natural causes? rolleyes

Simpo Two

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Tuesday 13th October 2020
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pequod said:
Interesting question, Simpo, and we are much older than you.

I have been awaiting the call for months to rejoin my chums for a lunch, as we used to do every so often, and the damned fear of catching C19 has put the mockers on it, apparently!

I do wonder if this madness will be over before we all die of natural causes? rolleyes
Summertime would have been the time to do it. I have no issues with dining outside.

It can't go on increasing for ever, it will die away to sustainable levels. And the news does love to big it up. In the big scheme of things it's having very little effect on the population. However my growing enthusiasm was tempered by the news saying that the average age of people being admitted to ICUs is 60. That's a high price to pay for a ham egg and chips you didn't actually need.