Child rapist gets community service
Child rapist gets community service
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V8covin

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vaud

58,151 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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It's the Daily Mail... any other sources?

V8covin

Original Poster:

9,445 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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vaud said:
It's the Daily Mail... any other sources?
https://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/news/18796612.mums-fury-kidderminster-child-rapist-gets-community-service-not-jail/

vaud

58,151 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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OK, that is the same syndicated content.

Anything from mainstream - Guardian, Telegraph, etc?

98elise

31,553 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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vaud said:
OK, that is the same syndicated content.

Anything from mainstream - Guardian, Telegraph, etc?
Since when has the Mail not been mainstream?

vaud

58,151 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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98elise said:
Since when has the Mail not been mainstream?
OK, it's mainstream, but tends to be unreliable or sensationalist.

It sounds like horrific story but I tend to look for a wider set of reporting first. My point is that there must have been a reason the judge decided on this given the broad sentencing guidelines that they have to hand.

foxbody-87

2,675 posts

190 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Yes, can we see a link to something unbiased like the Guardian please? hehe

mac96

5,836 posts

167 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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foxbody-87 said:
Yes, can we see a link to something unbiased like the Guardian please? hehe
It's not about bias, it's about taking the trouble to report enough detail for a reader to understand what happened. Something you used to expect of the Guardian, The Times and the Telegraph regardless of their political biases. It is getting rare in any area of mainstream journalism. Easier and cheaper not to bother.

vaud

58,151 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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mac96 said:
It's not about bias, it's about taking the trouble to report enough detail for a reader to understand what happened. Something you used to expect of the Guardian, The Times and the Telegraph regardless of their political biases. It is getting rare in any area of mainstream journalism. Easier and cheaper not to bother.
Indeed. If you read 4 or 5 sources the truth is probably somewhere in between. The DM is not known as a global "go to" reference for accuracy or impartiality. It does like easy headlines that outrage people (though I stress this may not be the case here)

V8covin

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Thursday 15th October 2020
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I can't find any other reports of this story so are we to assume The Mail have made it up ?

Phil Dicky

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287 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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V8covin said:
I can't find any other reports of this story so are we to assume The Mail have made it up ?
More likely not quite what it seems.

mac96

5,836 posts

167 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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There might be a clue in the picture of the rapist with the toy van. I wonder what his mental age is?

I really see it as irresponsible to report half the story like this, it could have terrible results for his family. And it brings the courts into disrepute. There are always people here and elsewhere frothing about courts being lenient and out of touch and that becomes understandable on a diet of media half stories like this one.

V8covin

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Thursday 15th October 2020
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It's in The Mirror too.Does that carry any more weight ?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mums-fury-af...

vaud

58,151 posts

179 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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V8covin said:
It's in The Mirror too.Does that carry any more weight ?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mums-fury-af...
Word for word exactly the same content?


mac96

5,836 posts

167 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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V8covin said:
It's in The Mirror too.Does that carry any more weight ?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mums-fury-af...
Not really, for me at least, and it still doesn't tell us anything about the sentencing decision. No better than the others.

spaximus

4,364 posts

277 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Okay we do not have all the facts but if that was my 5 year old daughter I too would feel that justice has not been served at all.


poo at Paul's

14,558 posts

199 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Special or not, if he's been getting sexually active with a 5 year old, he should be locked away for eveyones' good.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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It certainly sounds an aypical sentence so would be interesting to know the full circumstances.

Anyone here is welcome to ask the AG to look a the sentence if they feel it's unduly lenient: https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review

I have used the scheme to successfully increase someone's sentence.

Mazinbrum

1,229 posts

202 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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mac96 said:
It's not about bias, it's about taking the trouble to report enough detail for a reader to understand what happened. Something you used to expect of the Guardian, The Times and the Telegraph regardless of their political biases. It is getting rare in any area of mainstream journalism. Easier and cheaper not to bother.
Glad you said “used to expect of the Guardian”. I often think The Guardian should be in red and a smaller format these days.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

210 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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If he's compis enough to do community service he's compis enough to know right from wrong and compis enough to go to jail.