Unable to Retain a Number Plate
Unable to Retain a Number Plate
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N7GTX

Original Poster:

8,300 posts

171 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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I'm selling my car which has my private plate on it. So I went online this afternoon and filled in the info, pressed enter then a message came back saying, "This registration number cannot be retained online". I put the private plate, which I bought from DVLA, on the car 2 years ago.

At the moment DVLA telephones are not in service during Covid. So I have downloaded and completed the form V317 ready to send off with a cheque (don't have a chequebook so her indoors will have to pay wink ) but this of course will take more time.

The other car registration number went straight through no bother. Any idea what might have caused this message to appear?

CRA1G

7,235 posts

223 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Has the vehicle not been taxed at any point..?

N7GTX

Original Poster:

8,300 posts

171 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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The car's been taxed continually while I've owned it, now 2 years. Could it have anything to do with paying the tax monthly?

Jefferson Steelflex

1,607 posts

127 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Given the Welsh lockdown, i’m afraid you can expect a sizeable delay in having the transfer done manually. Mine took 8 weeks from late March, assuming all being equal again DVLA will be back on skeleton staff and prioritising based on need.

It’s likely the car wasn’t taxed or SORN at some stage before you owned it, hence they won’t do it online. it’s a pointless and st rule that i’ve never been able to fathom the point of.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

259 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Jefferson Steelflex said:
Given the Welsh lockdown, i’m afraid you can expect a sizeable delay in having the transfer done manually. Mine took 8 weeks from late March, assuming all being equal again DVLA will be back on skeleton staff and prioritising based on need.

It’s likely the car wasn’t taxed or SORN at some stage before you owned it, hence they won’t do it online. it’s a pointless and st rule that i’ve never been able to fathom the point of.
Possible that they know damn well they don't check the MOT status properly any more, so to stop folks just taxing an unrestorable barn find, and getting a valuable plate?

N7GTX

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8,300 posts

171 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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I really hope it isn't 8 weeks. It has to be taxed /sorn for 5 years I think so a previous owner or dealer might have cocked up. Bugger.

N7GTX

Original Poster:

8,300 posts

171 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Just an update for anyone possibly doing the same thing.

Emailed DVLA asking why it could not be done online. 5 days later a reply saying I must send it in to them. No explanation at all.
So I send off the V5c and then send a second email asking for an explanation. Looks like a standard reply, "The previous reply was correct" and "You must send the application by post" with a warning that "Currently it is taking between 6-8 weeks to process". Oh, just great....

Getting pissed off now I send in a formal complaint which to date has not been answered. In the meantime and after just 7 days the transfer is complete and the new V5c is returned. Immediately contact my potential buyer only to discover he's bought another car. cry

No doubt this is all our good friend Covid-19's fault.......... rolleyes

sjc

16,279 posts

298 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Just had the same thing, then realised the tax had exited by 3 days.
Don’t know if it will update and correct itself, I’ll have another go Monday !

911Alan

93 posts

171 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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I had the same issues when putting my number plate on retention prior to part exchanging my previous car, this was 3 weeks ago. In the end I sent off the logbook and retention form by post and the DVLA turned it around within a week, was pleasantly surprised.

N7GTX

Original Poster:

8,300 posts

171 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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Final Update: email today from DVLA says the reason for the postal application was the car I took the private plate off was reported as stolen recovered in its past history.
When I bought it from a dealer I was given an HPI report giving it all clear and Autotrader did not flag it. Spoke to HPI who have clarified why it does not show on their report. Seems that once the police and/or insurance marker is removed then it will not show on the database, usually when the car is recovered quickly with no damage. Only DVLA would show this.
HPI say that DVLA should have flagged up this issue when I put the private plate on, online, in the first place. rolleyes


Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

289 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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Why would DVLA flag up that when you put a plate on? It has no bearing whatsoever.

N7GTX

Original Poster:

8,300 posts

171 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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Tyre Smoke said:
Why would DVLA flag up that when you put a plate on? It has no bearing whatsoever.
Of course it does. The same reason as taking it off.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

289 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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I still don't see the relevence. DVLA don't care if you put a plate on a write off.

They have never flagged it on or off with any that I have done.

Cold

16,610 posts

118 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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This horse has bolted, but next time make sure your car is ready to be sold before putting it up for sale.
This includes emptying the glovebox, peeling off the PH smiley and retaining the cherished registration number.

N7GTX

Original Poster:

8,300 posts

171 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Tyre Smoke said:
I still don't see the relevence. DVLA don't care if you put a plate on a write off.

They have never flagged it on or off with any that I have done.
No nor me either that's why I kicked off with them. Its all to do with the marker that only DVLA can see apparently.

N7GTX

Original Poster:

8,300 posts

171 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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Cold said:
This horse has bolted, but next time make sure your car is ready to be sold before putting it up for sale.
This includes emptying the glovebox, peeling off the PH smiley and retaining the cherished registration number.
Funnily enough I do know a little about selling cars. I was doing diagnostic work at a trader's and he said he had a customer wanting a car like mine. I was thinking of selling anyway so we agreed a price. Pity really, as the hassle of haggling does not fill me with joy. Oh well....

TeaVR

1,261 posts

255 months

Saturday 18th December 2021
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Same crap is happening to me!

It's a PITA! Don't think I'll ever bother with a private plate again!

DVLA w*******s