Top Gear photography/cinematography
Top Gear photography/cinematography
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Chim_knee

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12,689 posts

278 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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Does anyone else think that the camera work/photography Top Gear have used recently is "award winning". I'm thinking with particular regards to the track tests (for example, the E-type and the DB5 last episode)... the composition, lighting, filtering etc was stunning.

I think one that stood out for me too was back (ages ago) when they did the Enzo. I remember the camera work being just amazing then.

Anyway - just thought I'd share my opinion! ;) I think whomever would be in control of that (producer/director/camera man/all of the above) deserve a pat on the back.

PetrolTed

34,461 posts

324 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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I agree. It's one of the few programmes that I'm aware of the effort that's gone into composing the shots. Top stuff.

tonyhetherington

32,091 posts

271 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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I do entirely agree that effort had obviously been made with respect to the pieces, however, from a certain level I do sometimes wish we just saw the car, and heard the engine. Period.

While the effects and cinematography (to use your word) are VERY VERY good indeed, truly, sometimes it does prevent you from seeing aspects of the car you may otherwise have seen.

Not a criticism, merely a comment.

Thanks
Tony

bad_roo

5,193 posts

258 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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Having seen how bleak Dunsfold is, I think they're bloody geniuses.

bacchus180

779 posts

305 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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i saw that on sunday... awesome lighting and angle on the DB5 really cool... but not as cool as damon hill demonstrating.... its not the car its the driver!

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

269 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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Although I mustn't be the only one to notice the shocking vignetting in many of the articles? I too think it's great stuff though.

Also very very good is the camera work in the "Digital Picture of Britain" series - not the work from the photogs being filmed but the actual video stuff - superb.

Phil S

730 posts

259 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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I have been amazed at the quality of work that goes into TG for a long time now, although sometimes I do think that they verge on the over-use of special effects/arty composition which can detract from the main feature (i.e. the car) somewhat. As an example, the Maserati Coupe feature this week had a lot of irrelevant shots but I still thought it was excellent.

trackdemon

13,113 posts

282 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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Anyone remember the 550 vs Vanquish article from last series; they must have hired an ultra expensive piece of kit for filming the wheels spinning in super slo-mo but boy did it look good; more like watching a film. Love the filter effects thay use and the use of sunlight and foreground is absolutely superb.

Chim_knee

Original Poster:

12,689 posts

278 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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trackdemon said:
Anyone remember the 550 ... filming the wheels spinning in super slo-mo but ...
That's the one I meant when I said it was an Enzo.

But - gorgeous!

Chim_knee

Original Poster:

12,689 posts

278 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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_dobbo_ said:
Although I mustn't be the only one to notice the shocking vignetting in many of the articles?
I thought that was deliberate? Kind of artistic.

If not, a happy-accident IMHO!

Ex-biker

1,315 posts

268 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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tonyhetherington said:
I do entirely agree that effort had obviously been made with respect to the pieces, however, from a certain level I do sometimes wish we just saw the car, and heard the engine. Period.


When the Stig is driving, why can't we just hear the engine instead of music?

HankScorpio

715 posts

258 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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They love their purple grads and the vignetting filters (as do I) but did anyone notice that Fifth Gear started doing a lot more of that in the last series...?

Zad

12,934 posts

257 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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The vignette and the graduated filters do look stunning, especially as the "glossy" shots. But I would like to see less of it as they get into the article, I feel a bit like I'm having to work to look through the filters at the item. Given the number of pics I have Photoshopped / mangled over the years I kinda feel in a position to comment

I get the feeling though that the Top Gear cameramen really know their job though, and even without filters the pics would look stunning. The misty haze in part of the E-Type/DB-5 segment complemented the cars styling and paintwork absolutely perfectly.

The latest cliché effect that seems to be doing the rounds in TV ads is to partially desaturate and whack up the contrast.

Mike

slinky

15,704 posts

270 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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trackdemon said:
Anyone remember the 550 vs Vanquish article from last series; they must have hired an ultra expensive piece of kit for filming the wheels spinning in super slo-mo but boy did it look good; more like watching a film. Love the filter effects thay use and the use of sunlight and foreground is absolutely superb.


I was going to comment on that one... it was absolutely fantastic photography, it's repeated on one of the Discovery channels quite regularly and I never tire of watching it...

Wasn't it a 575 tho?

slinky
587racing.com

Gruffy

7,212 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th June 2005
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The video equivalent of EVO's photography. While I agree that TG's swing towards enterainment over objectivity is a concern, the creativity in the footage is very welcome.

I can get all the pictures and video I need of any car right here from PistonHeads, so I'll happily take some evocative video with big production values and good camerawork.

I'm told that all of the effects are in-camera, but I'm not buying it for a second. Why wouldn't you grade and filter that footage in post? It has to be at least 10 times easier to achieve the same results. Having said that, you can't polish turds and the operators clearly earn their money!

Oh, to have their resources!

Gruffy

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the wonderful Weissman vs Tuscan 2 footge yet?

trackdemon

13,113 posts

282 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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slinky said:

trackdemon said:
Anyone remember the 550 vs Vanquish article from last series; they must have hired an ultra expensive piece of kit for filming the wheels spinning in super slo-mo but boy did it look good; more like watching a film. Love the filter effects thay use and the use of sunlight and foreground is absolutely superb.



I was going to comment on that one... it was absolutely fantastic photography, it's repeated on one of the Discovery channels quite regularly and I never tire of watching it...

Wasn't it a 575 tho?

slinky
587racing.com


Indeed it was! Find it here: www.finalgear.com/downloads/topgear/5/4/

meeja

8,290 posts

269 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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Gruffy said:

I'm told that all of the effects are in-camera, but I'm not buying it for a second. Why wouldn't you grade and filter that footage in post?


Some of the effects are present at the time of filming, but not all

Gruffy said:

The operators clearly earn their money!


Indeed. The guys who shoot the film inserts for TG are extremely talented. But it's not just the filters and effects that make it as good as it is (obviously it helps!) but it is the shot composition that is used and the fact that some of the guys can see an angle for a class shot that others would reject out of hand.

Ed Winchester

169 posts

258 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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Agreed.. Stunning composition, which leaves me incredibly humbled.

I would agree however that the filter use is a little over the top occasionally but the vignettes do a lot to concentrate the eye on the area of interest in an otherwise average shot.

The programme has a distinctive style, which remains constistant.

Top Gear cameraman… surely the best job in the world!

poah

2,142 posts

249 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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Ed Winchester said:
Agreed..

Top Gear cameraman… surely the best job in the world!


disagree

Ed Winchester

169 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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poah said:

Ed Winchester said:
Agreed..

Top Gear cameraman… surely the best job in the world!



disagree


Explain.