Powerline adaptors
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anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I'm currently using an old Netgear AV500 powerline adaptor to get network access in my detached garage.
Wi-Fi is flaky in the garage so this is the best solution.
To be fair I've been getting stable speeds of about 30Mbps down and almost full speed up. My BB is about 70Mbps down and 20Mbps up.
A bit weird I am getting better upload speeds than download.
Distance wise the garage is no more than 5m from house but I appreciate the length of wiring would be much longer.

Is there a point investing on a newer Powerline for better speeds?
I don't require Wi-FI hotspot, only a passthrough for sockets.

Anyone here use powerline in similiar fashion? Interested to know your speeds.

-crookedtail-

1,593 posts

220 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Would a mesh system work better?

I'm hoping someone else can tell us as interested in knowing the answer too, as I've got a similar situation.

anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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-crookedtail- said:
Would a mesh system work better?

I'm hoping someone else can tell us as interested in knowing the answer too, as I've got a similar situation.
I have the BT mesh system but unless I daisy chain loads of discs the signal is just not reliable enough in the garage. There are some insulation which I believe causes interference.

I've seen a NetGear adaptor for about 60 quid but want to know if it's worth buying...

gus607

997 posts

166 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I bought a TP Link powerline adaptor pair which cost £120. Complete & utter rubbish with regular signal loss & less than half my ethernet signal at best.
I later did what I should have done first & connected with an ethernet lead. Much cheaper & 100% reliable.

anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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gus607 said:
I bought a TP Link powerline adaptor pair which cost £120. Complete & utter rubbish with regular signal loss & less than half my ethernet signal at best.
I later did what I should have done first & connected with an ethernet lead. Much cheaper & 100% reliable.
I did consider wiring Cat 7 armoured cable but there is just no way for me to do it properly. Don't fancy burying a cable hence why I am sort of hoping the newer powerline have better resilience against noise.

mmm-five

12,392 posts

314 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Same experience here. Even with the newest powerline adapters from Devolo I'm getting 60-70% max of my VM download speed.

Although I get similar via the wifi on these as I do via the ethernet sockets, which is more useful for connecting multiple devices than the 2 ethernet ports.

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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As you already have some success with powerline, I would say it's worth upgrading yours.

I use the TP Link AV 1200 and 1300/1350 ones and they have been faultless. My house was built in 2000 so the wiring is relatively new. My powerline goes across two consumer units and I see no loss of speed across the network.

I use and have recommended these to several people, no one has come back to me and said they had any issues with them at all:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07349P1TX/ref...

Get them from Amazon and if they don't improve things you can always return them.

Do not leave the Netgear ones plugged in as well.

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Just noticed you said you didn't want WiFi ... this is a non WiFi set:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PA8033PKIT-Gig...


Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

271 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I lost a mobo, cpu, usb hub and other misc bits due to a power line adapter and lightning.

Ok I should have run the lan cable from power line to surge protector, then into pc, but I didn’t.

Clearly some nasty EM can come in via power cables that isn’t expected.



Mesh systems work ok but if your garage is foil backed kingspan type lined then it’s a bit of a faraday cage I suppose?


I’d just run a proper cable and have done.


Power line may not work well across a consumer unit bridge type thing (modern wired garage might have another small unit in garage)

Mesh systems aren’t cheap for a good one.

At least cable will have guaranteed performance and a well understood cost.

Scrump

23,947 posts

188 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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I use a powerline into my garage. Wired connection only. The garage is on a different wiring circuit to the house (where the router and other powerline unit is).

I get 100mbps download and 30mbps upload in the house.

In the garage via the powerline extender I get 35mbps download and 30mbps upload.

So similar to you in getting full upload speed but reduced download, I presume this is due to the mains wiring in the house being the limit.
If I try my powerline extender in the house on the same mains circuit as the other powerline unit then the download speed is vastly increased.

DocJock

8,722 posts

270 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Devolo powerlines work perfectly well across two consumer units into my garage.

Speed is faster than the WiFi indoors

cobra kid

5,600 posts

270 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

After starting the above thread, I opted for the basic £28 pair of TPLink adaptors. We got them last Saturday. Wired them in and even across an extension lead two floors up, still getting about 80% of the full speed.

xeny

5,516 posts

108 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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anxious_ant said:
I've seen a NetGear adaptor for about 60 quid but want to know if it's worth buying...
Pair of gigabit units (so maybe 3-400 mbit real) for £40 may make it more attractive

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B089DKK2K7/

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

271 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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cobra kid said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

After starting the above thread, I opted for the basic £28 pair of TPLink adaptors. We got them last Saturday. Wired them in and even across an extension lead two floors up, still getting about 80% of the full speed.
Do these things have built in surge protection these days?
I’d run the lan cable though the extension lead surge protector if it has one.

anxious_ant

Original Poster:

2,626 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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ash73 said:
can't you run a cable?
Not really without burying it. It would be to unsightly dangling a cable to the garage.

anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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mmm-five said:
Same experience here. Even with the newest powerline adapters from Devolo I'm getting 60-70% max of my VM download speed.

Although I get similar via the wifi on these as I do via the ethernet sockets, which is more useful for connecting multiple devices than the 2 ethernet ports.
60-70% is not too bad. I'm getting about 30%. I suppose I have to consider the extra cable length to the detached garage.

anxious_ant

Original Poster:

2,626 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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sgrimshaw said:
As you already have some success with powerline, I would say it's worth upgrading yours.

I use the TP Link AV 1200 and 1300/1350 ones and they have been faultless. My house was built in 2000 so the wiring is relatively new. My powerline goes across two consumer units and I see no loss of speed across the network.

I use and have recommended these to several people, no one has come back to me and said they had any issues with them at all:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07349P1TX/ref...

Get them from Amazon and if they don't improve things you can always return them.

Do not leave the Netgear ones plugged in as well.
Interesting, mine goes through 2 consumer units too (there is one in the garage). I might have a look at your link, mine is an older version that is now discontiued. It's really stable though smile

edit : wow, 100 quid is a bit higher than my expected budget. I have cheap pair of TP Links (non Wi-FI) but they are crap. Keep disconnecting.

anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Looks like a lot of recommendation for TP-Link here, so I will have a look.
Would it help if I plug one end to a main socket closer to the consumer unit?

anxious_ant

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2,626 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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DocJock said:
Devolo powerlines work perfectly well across two consumer units into my garage.

Speed is faster than the WiFi indoors
Interesting, do you happen to have a link to the product?

seveb

308 posts

103 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Run a cat 5e cable. Keeps your data private and will give you 100meg all day every day. You can use up to about 95m of cable on the run. Do it once and never worry again.