Daylight saving and night shift
Daylight saving and night shift
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HedgeyGedgey

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1,319 posts

117 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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Me again with another confusing message from everyone's favourite employer, Amazon.

So daylight saving is at 2am this year, correct? They're delaying our start time by an hour so instead of starting at 23:45. We're starting at 0:45. And finishing at 10:15. They're saying this is a 9.5hrs shift. Now I make that 11hrs? I might be confusing myself, we get an unpaid 30min break and 1 paid. Could someone please help before my brain explodes due to overthinking this

HTP99

24,657 posts

163 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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I make it 10.5 hours.

HedgeyGedgey

Original Poster:

1,319 posts

117 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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HTP99 said:
I make it 10.5 hours.
I think I might have gained 30mins with the whole unpaid break thing. Their messages aren't the easiest to understand

HedgeyGedgey

Original Poster:

1,319 posts

117 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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So now I've had another message saying start time is 0:45 and finish is 10:45 for a 9.5hrs shift 🙃

Countdown

47,139 posts

219 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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HedgeyGedgey said:
Me again with another confusing message from everyone's favourite employer, Amazon.

So daylight saving is at 2am this year, correct? They're delaying our start time by an hour so instead of starting at 23:45. We're starting at 0:45. And finishing at 10:15. They're saying this is a 9.5hrs shift. Now I make that 11hrs? I might be confusing myself, we get an unpaid 30min break and 1 paid. Could someone please help before my brain explodes due to overthinking this
What time do you normally start and normally finish?

If it’s normally 23:45 to 10:15 then starting one hour later will ensure you don’t lose when the clocks go back. You’ll still be working the same hours.

HedgeyGedgey

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1,319 posts

117 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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Countdown said:
What time do you normally start and normally finish?

If it’s normally 23:45 to 10:15 then starting one hour later will ensure you don’t lose when the clocks go back. You’ll still be working the same hours.
We normally start at 22:45 and finish at 9:45. Which is 10.5hrs with an unpaid 30min break.
The latest message is saying 0:45 and finish at 10:45 which they're saying is a 9.5hrs shift

Countdown

47,139 posts

219 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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HedgeyGedgey said:
We normally start at 22:45 and finish at 9:45. Which is 10.5hrs with an unpaid 30min break.
The latest message is saying 0:45 and finish at 10:45 which they're saying is a 9.5hrs shift
Both are exactly the same.

The 2nd version is 9.5 hours (kind of) but you need to add on the hour that the clocks go back.

HedgeyGedgey

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1,319 posts

117 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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Thank you, its the whole 9.5hrs they've told us but evidently its 10.5hrs. Now to correct them in a non bhy way lol

HTP99

24,657 posts

163 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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HedgeyGedgey said:
Countdown said:
What time do you normally start and normally finish?

If it’s normally 23:45 to 10:15 then starting one hour later will ensure you don’t lose when the clocks go back. You’ll still be working the same hours.
We normally start at 22:45 and finish at 9:45. Which is 10.5hrs with an unpaid 30min break.
The latest message is saying 0:45 and finish at 10:45 which they're saying is a 9.5hrs shift
Start at 0:45 get to 02:00, this is 1hr 15.

At 02:00 the clocks go back to 01:00, 01:00 till 10:45 is 9hrs 45.

9hrs 45 plus 1hr 15 is 11 hours, less your 30 minute break, 10.5 hours worked.

Countdown

47,139 posts

219 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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We had issues with DST and the night shift at my last place of work.

The March shift worked 7 hours and wanted paying for 8 because it was "contractual".
The October shift worked 9 hours and wanted paying for 9.

Quite often it was the same people. A bit of a pee-take but for the sake of one hour across 40 staff it didn't seem to be worth kicking up a fuss

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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It's amazing that an event that happens every year for decades yet these big companies with all their manager cant even get it right.

HedgeyGedgey

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1,319 posts

117 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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Countdown said:
We had issues with DST and the night shift at my last place of work.

The March shift worked 7 hours and wanted paying for 8 because it was "contractual".
The October shift worked 9 hours and wanted paying for 9.

Quite often it was the same people. A bit of a pee-take but for the sake of one hour across 40 staff it didn't seem to be worth kicking up a fuss
I understand the other way round when the clocks go forward because you've not worked that hour. But working an extra hour unpaid isn't right, I've let them know their mistake saying its 9.5hrs when it should be 10.5. We'll wait for their reply lol

HedgeyGedgey

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117 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
It's amazing that an event that happens every year for decades yet these big companies with all their manager cant even get it right.
Honestly some of the messages we get off them are just mind blowingly confusing. I end up having to set a timer and clocking out when the timer is up, and then writing down my shift times because they still can't get it right

Jamescrs

5,862 posts

88 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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I used to work nights, not really now but my employer in the spring used to just accept we were doing an hour less for the same money and in winter paid an hours overtime for the extra hour.

HedgeyGedgey

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1,319 posts

117 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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Jamescrs said:
I used to work nights, not really now but my employer in the spring used to just accept we were doing an hour less for the same money and in winter paid an hours overtime for the extra hour.
My old job was exactly the same, why confuse it? I think what's happened is they've pushed the shift back 1 hour so we miss the clocks going back. But seeing as they go back at 2am its not worked

Sheepshanks

39,134 posts

142 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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HedgeyGedgey said:
Thank you, its the whole 9.5hrs they've told us but evidently its 10.5hrs. Now to correct them in a non bhy way lol
It's 9.5 hrs on the clock, but as the clocks go back at 2AM you work the hour from 1AM to 2AM twice, so you're doing 10.5hrs work.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,719 posts

258 months

Saturday 24th October 2020
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For all the monthly paid people in the world:

This is one of the years you work an extra day for free! (Probably hehe)

TwigtheWonderkid

47,865 posts

173 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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There was a thread on Mumsnet a while back from a woman who was losing it with her husband, as he was insisting 12 until 2 was 3 hours, (12, 1 and 2) and wouldn't accept that she was right that it was only 2 hours.

If my other half was that dense, I'd find it very hard to continue that relationship, regardless of all other virtues.