more miles per gallon please
Discussion
what engine gearbox and dif do you have?
what carb
how many miles has it done
when was it last serviced
and under what conditions - speed etc does it do 20 mpg?
a 2.0l with a low dif ratio [high number such as 4.125 : 1] i would expect to do 20 a smaller engine 1.6 maybe 25-30 maybe more if driven right unless it has a problem
compression valve seat recession buggered or badly set up carb or even wrong carb
kit cars end up fitted with all sorts
just a few ideas
where in the country are you?
what carb
how many miles has it done
when was it last serviced
and under what conditions - speed etc does it do 20 mpg?
a 2.0l with a low dif ratio [high number such as 4.125 : 1] i would expect to do 20 a smaller engine 1.6 maybe 25-30 maybe more if driven right unless it has a problem
compression valve seat recession buggered or badly set up carb or even wrong carb
kit cars end up fitted with all sorts
just a few ideas
where in the country are you?
damn sorry to hear that mart - better job round corner i hope
my brakes did a good impression of not wanting to be there on way back from newark
got some now
adjustable rod next
just dunno which ones to cut 'n weld
i got 3 dif ones
longest is on geep
and came with it
1 isnt suitable as it has a short pedal end fork
may not be escort???
other one is nearly an inch shorter same fork but weird looking end not a hemisphere type smaller and with a ball and step look to it at master cyl end
probably dont matter if its adjustable with an extra 80 mm
were there modified ones from jago?
really they needed to be 1" longer
anyone know???
my brakes did a good impression of not wanting to be there on way back from newark
got some now
adjustable rod next
just dunno which ones to cut 'n weld
i got 3 dif ones
longest is on geep
and came with it
1 isnt suitable as it has a short pedal end fork
may not be escort???
other one is nearly an inch shorter same fork but weird looking end not a hemisphere type smaller and with a ball and step look to it at master cyl end
probably dont matter if its adjustable with an extra 80 mm
were there modified ones from jago?
really they needed to be 1" longer
anyone know???
The most straight forward ones are from Europa Specialist Spares.
Jago only thought about it after a club member did it and told them about it.
Can't remember if they actually produced any themselves or whether it was just folks like me knocking them out on an exchange basis (which I was doing a one point a number of years ago) or by folks taking the instructions to an engineer/good welder and getting it done.
Recently I did an adjustable shortened one for Jemimah Geep as the standard unit (which was a genuine Escort item) was actually to long
Just goes to show Jago's did some strange things when it came to making the kits. But on the whole most do need the lengthened version.
One thing Jago did do on some of the very last kits (due to the increased use of servos by folks despite advising against such action)was to include a bias valve to be fitted to the rear brake line just in case a servo was fitted (which if the instructions for it were followed had it mounted on the drivers side bulkhead or inner wing).
Unfortunately it tended to work to well and meant when said Jago's went to be MOT'd ready for registering they failed on rear brakes and the brakes felt naff on the road.
I had a busy few months at the time receiving phone calls from folks who had built these kits asking how they could improve the brakes which often went like this. "Hello my brakes are no good." 'Is it a new kit?' "Yes" 'Has it got a brake bias valve in the kit which you put into the brake pipe going to the rear brakes?' "Yes" 'OK take it out and fit a short piece of brake pipe in its place with the correct unions and see if that makes the brakes work. If so either (recommended) replace the rear brake pipe with a new length from the master cylinder to the rear brakes or secure that jointed pipe to the part of the body that the bias valve was fitted to.' "OK thanks"
Usually followed by another phone call later that day or a few days later. "Hello my brakes are working great now thanks."
OOPs I have drifted this conversation off from the original topic (Sorry) but it may help someone out there.
>> Edited by techsec on Friday 1st July 18:19
Jago only thought about it after a club member did it and told them about it.
Can't remember if they actually produced any themselves or whether it was just folks like me knocking them out on an exchange basis (which I was doing a one point a number of years ago) or by folks taking the instructions to an engineer/good welder and getting it done.
Recently I did an adjustable shortened one for Jemimah Geep as the standard unit (which was a genuine Escort item) was actually to long
Just goes to show Jago's did some strange things when it came to making the kits. But on the whole most do need the lengthened version. One thing Jago did do on some of the very last kits (due to the increased use of servos by folks despite advising against such action)was to include a bias valve to be fitted to the rear brake line just in case a servo was fitted (which if the instructions for it were followed had it mounted on the drivers side bulkhead or inner wing).
Unfortunately it tended to work to well and meant when said Jago's went to be MOT'd ready for registering they failed on rear brakes and the brakes felt naff on the road.
I had a busy few months at the time receiving phone calls from folks who had built these kits asking how they could improve the brakes which often went like this. "Hello my brakes are no good." 'Is it a new kit?' "Yes" 'Has it got a brake bias valve in the kit which you put into the brake pipe going to the rear brakes?' "Yes" 'OK take it out and fit a short piece of brake pipe in its place with the correct unions and see if that makes the brakes work. If so either (recommended) replace the rear brake pipe with a new length from the master cylinder to the rear brakes or secure that jointed pipe to the part of the body that the bias valve was fitted to.' "OK thanks"
Usually followed by another phone call later that day or a few days later. "Hello my brakes are working great now thanks."
OOPs I have drifted this conversation off from the original topic (Sorry) but it may help someone out there.
>> Edited by techsec on Friday 1st July 18:19
its after 12 [and pub] so drifting is my specialist subject - isnt it?
but seriously
the 80mm bolt - have you any "standard" escort rods ?
what should they measure
cos i think one on my car is a longer one
or is it???
any dif in length between mk1 and 2??
i have one rod that is verry short between pedal pin and rod - maybe 1cm so couldnt be converted i think
U on other two significantly bigger pin would go through U onto pedal if you can understand that
if not will photograph them ie ===- compared to =-
hmmm crap analagy but you may understand
if not got any lying about you can measure
pointless elongating wrong ones
cheers chris
Dave [inferior technical sec] lol
but seriously
the 80mm bolt - have you any "standard" escort rods ?
what should they measure
cos i think one on my car is a longer one
or is it???
any dif in length between mk1 and 2??
i have one rod that is verry short between pedal pin and rod - maybe 1cm so couldnt be converted i think
U on other two significantly bigger pin would go through U onto pedal if you can understand that
if not will photograph them ie ===- compared to =-
hmmm crap analagy but you may understand
if not got any lying about you can measure
pointless elongating wrong ones
cheers chris
Dave [inferior technical sec] lol
There is currently a diesel Geep for sale on ebay which has the 1800 turbo ford engine in. Have seen an isuzu diesel fitted. How about the ford lump and then run it on veg oil. If you use second hand veg oil there is no fuel duty to pay. Going rate for used oil is pennies per gallon.
Second hand veggie oil causes problems due to the contamination in it. Various companies have tried filtering out the contaminants (which is mainly palm oil IE lard) but the pumps and filters when working tend to warm the oil to the temperature that the palm oil becomes liquid at so it goes through the system and makes the process worthless. If you do wish to use used oil then the filtration needs to be one micron.
Fresh unused veggie oil is the stuff to use but as we have said when folks enquire about the conversions "we can fit the kit but what you do regards paying the duty or not is your decision"
The magic temperature no matter which oil you wish to use is 55 degrees C. At this temperature the oil has the same viscosity as diesel.
>> Edited by techsec on Saturday 2nd July 20:39
Fresh unused veggie oil is the stuff to use but as we have said when folks enquire about the conversions "we can fit the kit but what you do regards paying the duty or not is your decision"
The magic temperature no matter which oil you wish to use is 55 degrees C. At this temperature the oil has the same viscosity as diesel.
>> Edited by techsec on Saturday 2nd July 20:39
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