Jenson Button's 2004 Imola pole lap
Jenson Button's 2004 Imola pole lap
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A44RON

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575 posts

112 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWItGp4qaY4

he described it as the best qualy lap he ever did.

Was he listening to Sade's Smooth Operator during the lap?...

Sandpit Steve

13,009 posts

90 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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A44RON said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWItGp4qaY4

he described it as the best qualy lap he ever did.

Was he listening to Sade's Smooth Operator during the lap?...
Great lap. Don’t we all wish the cars still sounded like that? Visceral.

bobbo89

5,741 posts

161 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Sandpit Steve said:
Great lap. Don’t we all wish the cars still sounded like that? Visceral.
Makes your spine tingle doesn't it!

Zep56

22 posts

62 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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The cars danced back then....way more dynamic, plus the right F1 soundtrack

MB140

4,680 posts

119 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Sandpit Steve said:
Great lap. Don’t we all wish the cars still sounded like that? Visceral.
Yep. Sounds like a proper race car. Car looks light and agile.

24lemons

2,872 posts

201 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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I was sat at Acque Minerale that day. I remember the sound of the V10’s howling around the circuit. Hairs on the back of the neck stuff

faa77

1,728 posts

87 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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Sounds a bit too whiney for me, prefer a deep V8 cross-plane rumble. However, I appreciate this isn't practical for an F1 car.

exelero

1,971 posts

105 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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faa77 said:
Sounds a bit too whiney for me, prefer a deep V8 cross-plane rumble. However, I appreciate this isn't practical for an F1 car.
I prefer the V8’s as well to the 10’s and 12’s smile

thegreenhell

20,012 posts

235 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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And no worries about track limits with those curbs.

anonymous-user

70 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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Button was so, so good in that era of car, but never seemed to be in the right place at the right time aside from the Brawn year.

What's interesting is how much more ragged Schumacher's lap was.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

126 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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Landcrab_Six said:
Button was so, so good in that era of car, but never seemed to be in the right place at the right time aside from the Brawn year.
Second half of 2006 was pretty good - outscored everyone else, just ruined by three engine issues with the Honda in the first half.

(Remember engine failures everyone?)

kambites

69,816 posts

237 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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In person I love the sound of the V10s, but that video reminded me that on TV you get all of the annoying whine but none of the sense of mechanical drama from them.

For me, peak sound in televised terms was the lower-reving, more varied engines before the first turbo era.


ETA: The other thing that struck me about that video is how slow it looks. Were 2004 F1 cars faster or slower than current F2? There can't be much in it?

Edited by kambites on Sunday 1st November 17:14

A44RON

Original Poster:

575 posts

112 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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kambites said:
In person I love the sound of the V10s, but that video reminded me that on TV you get all of the annoying whine but none of the sense of mechanical drama from them.

For me, peak sound in televised terms was the lower-reving, more varied engines before the first turbo era.


ETA: The other thing that struck me about that video is how slow it looks. Were 2004 F1 cars faster or slower than current F2? There can't be much in it?

Edited by kambites on Sunday 1st November 17:14
It must be how you're viewing it, because the 2004 V10s were way way faster than today's F2... in fact, Button's 2004 Monza qualifying time in that BAR-Honda would've put him 7th on the grid for this year's Italian grand prix.

Still looks damn fast and very dramatic to me

Edited by A44RON on Monday 2nd November 03:41

Piginapoke

5,476 posts

201 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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2004 F1 cars held an awful lot of outright lap records until the most recent regulation changes- properly quick.

thegreenhell

20,012 posts

235 months

Monday 2nd November 2020
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kambites said:
ETA: The other thing that struck me about that video is how slow it looks. Were 2004 F1 cars faster or slower than current F2? There can't be much in it?
2004 F1 cars were about twelve seconds per lap faster at Spa and Monza, and that's in an era of grooved tyres and qualifying with race fuel levels. Any sense of speed in the video will be down to the different camera viewpoint.