Modifying vehicles, legality
Modifying vehicles, legality
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Incorrigible

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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I know a bloke who wants a strech Lada

Bizzare I know, but the question is.....

Cut and shut 2 cars, bung in a bit of extra bracing, what tests does it have to go through ?? Full SVA, part SVA, just an MOT

I've no idea

I'm guessing it's more involved than just telling the insurance I've fitted 2 extra seat :hehe:

Spartan_andy

645 posts

270 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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having had allsorts of aggro with my spartan re requiured tests etc i suspect this would need SVA as the floorpan/chassis are being modified but i could be wrong. Has been known

Mutant Rat

9,939 posts

268 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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I'd have thought that the easiest way would be to avoid disclosing that two different cars were being used.

If you are simply stretching a single vehicle, retaining all major mechanical components and the 'chassis' (albeit with additional material added), I'm fairly sure that you'll get away with just an MOT, provided the taxation class hasn't changed.

Mixing and matching components from two cars is likely to land you with full SVA and a Q-reg, if you aren't careful!

Whatever, you will almost certainly require a full engineer's report, too - not for registration purposes, but because you won't find an insurance company who will touch it, without.

Incorrigible

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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Full engineers report, I may as well get a full SVA, no more expensive and I can then get the rest of the doccumentation done a lot more easily

I was wondering whether I'd have to upgrade any of the other mechanicals I'll be adding a good 150kg I'd imagine and Ladas aren't exactly renowned for their bulletproof engineering

jeremyc

27,154 posts

307 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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Incorrigible said:
I know a bloke who wants a strech Lada
There are, it seems, a fair few about.



Just how far do you want to stretch it?

Incorrigible

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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They're the same piccies as he showed me

Looks like I'm all go for this too, just need to find a few old Ladas

Incorrigible

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th June 2005
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They're the same piccies as he showed me

Looks like I'm all go for this too, just need to find a few old Ladas

Mutant Rat

9,939 posts

268 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Incorrigible said:

I was wondering whether I'd have to upgrade any of the other mechanicals I'll be adding a good 150kg I'd imagine and Ladas aren't exactly renowned for their bulletproof engineering


I had a mate who ran a Lada estate at UNi...mechanically, it was quite robust. It was the rustproofing (or lack of) that finally killed it.

Best way of dealing with the extra weight is to get it finsished and SVA'd (or whatever...I still think that SVA should be avoided if you want to save yourself a whole world of grief), then drop in a 2 litre Fiat Twin Cam and 5-speed box. Since the Lada mechanicals are Fiat derived, this is supposed to be a relatively straightforward conversion.

Incorrigible

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Thanks matey

I'll keep everyone posted if this goes ahead

Cheers

Ben

anonymous-user

77 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Is this related to this? Either way, sounds absolutely mental and a bloody good laugh.

KITT

5,345 posts

264 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Sod stretching it, mod it like this:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=14&t=72090

avocet

800 posts

278 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Legally, it's a "Radically Altered Vehicle" (as far as the DVLA are concerned). These still get treated on the old "points" scheme whereby if you get a certain minimum number of points for keeping various "major components" from the original car, you won't need SVA. Unfortunately, they also state that ANY car which does not retain the "original, UNMODIFIED chassis or monocoque bodyshell" will have to do an SVA test anyway.

Obviously, you can probably get away with this if you don't tell them but an SVA would be a sensible thing to do! The extra weight of the conversion needs to be considered in conjunction with any additional seating. People are reckoned to weigh 75kg each for SVA purposes, so if you've got another 2 seats, thats another 150kg on top of your first 150! Also make sure you can get tyres with an appropriate load rating.

deathbyfish

207 posts

260 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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Incorrigible said:
Full engineers report, I may as well get a full SVA, no more expensive and I can then get the rest of the doccumentation done a lot more easily

I was wondering whether I'd have to upgrade any of the other mechanicals I'll be adding a good 150kg I'd imagine and Ladas aren't exactly renowned for their bulletproof engineering


i think you should stick a big chevy v8 or something in it, youve got to put extra bracing in anyway you might as well carry on to the front and put some decent engine mounts there, so with all that extra weight youll need something good to pull it!



and then you could stick a supercharger on as well

Vitesse39

731 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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I dare you to try it with a Relient Robin

busa_rush

6,930 posts

274 months

Monday 22nd August 2005
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Mutant Rat said:
mechanically, it was quite robust. It was the rustproofing (or lack of) that finally killed it.


Yep

Mutant Rat said:
then drop in a 2 litre Fiat Twin Cam and 5-speed box.


And now spoil it