any ceiling speaker experts here
any ceiling speaker experts here
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wjwren

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4,484 posts

151 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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About to buy pair of speakers for the kitchen. As it is hard to demo, then I was after advice from anyone that install's these for a living etc. I'm looking at either Kef Ci200.2CR, Bose 791 or Q Acoustics QI80. It will be used for spotify streaming via yamaha network amp for pop/dance music etc. I may also add a spare BK sub in a kitchen cabinet I have.

wjwren

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4,484 posts

151 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Or monitor audio?

tonyg58

410 posts

215 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Boses are far too expensive for what they are.
Don't know the KEF in-ceilings ,but i've never been a fan of the Uni-Q drive units.
Q Acoustics make good value products, i'm not familiar with their in-celings, but i've looked up your suggested products and the freq response looks poor (-3dB at 63 Hz from an 8 inch bass unit?? would expect much lower than that.
Equivalent Monitor Audio (CS180) goes down to 48 Hz which is more like it.
Try and find somewhere to buy Paradigm speakers from (they are superb), but not many dealers.

anonymous-user

70 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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I’ve always been happy with Monitor Audio.

VEX

5,257 posts

262 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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I have 6 x C165 In-Ceiling Speakers left over from a project sat in the van looking for a home.

I can also supply Paradigm speakers, just need to know models.

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

151 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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Vex what would you say is your best ceiling speaker. These will be used for background music. Thank you.

thebraketester

15,109 posts

154 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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I had B&W ceilings and they sounded amazing.

JimmyCauty

27 posts

112 months

Thursday 5th November 2020
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I spent a fair bit of time listening to demos of various ceiling speakers by Monitor Audio, Bose, Polk and others. However, ended up going with Origin Acoustics on the advice of a friend who is an AV installer.

Really pleased with the results. Mostly used for streaming music via Sonos, and all driven by Sonos amps. The single stereo speakers and outdoor speakers also sound surprisingly good.

I was advised to pack the back of the speakers with lambswool as they were being installed (available by the bag in B&Q) to enhance the bass a bit.

https://originacoustics.com/

JC.


StescoG66

2,331 posts

159 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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https://www.fyneaudio.com/home-install/

But I am biased as I work there. We have 5 models to choose from ranging from 6” coaxial to8” point source. In stock too smile

Edited by StescoG66 on Friday 6th November 08:01

tonyg58

410 posts

215 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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If you buy a pair of Paradigm CI-H65 Rs you will not be disappointed.

VEX

5,257 posts

262 months

Friday 6th November 2020
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wjwren said:
Vex what would you say is your best ceiling speaker. These will be used for background music. Thank you.
So that is the kill or even contradictory question. Would i use my best speaker for just back ground music? At what point does the speaker out perform its function?

Honestly I have installed 100's on basic contractor speakers (traditional bottom of the rung, good name brands) and as back ground music while you're milling around, doing something else they are perfect.

If you're sitting down to listen to music or its a party space where the sound get wound up, that's when and where you spend your money.

IMO, Good, branded speakers are hard to differentiate at this end of the market, my contractor go to are Monitor Audio and then as you move up the requirement factor, Monitor still stay there but for me Sonnance come in, but heard good things about Origin and Paradigm. But we are doubling the budget for their mid-rangers.

V

FuzzyLogic

1,654 posts

254 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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I have 4 of the Monitor Audio Ct165 in my kitchen & have been really pleased with them. If you are anywhere near Oxfordshire, you are more than welcome to come and have a listen once the virus restrictions have been relaxed.

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

151 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Vex, out of interest, why do retail places heavily use Bose? If i go in to River Island, Next or most pubs then they seem to use Bose. It normally sounds pretty decent to my ears.

anonymous-user

70 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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wjwren said:
Vex, out of interest, why do retail places heavily use Bose? If i go in to River Island, Next or most pubs then they seem to use Bose. It normally sounds pretty decent to my ears.
Normally because they have a big sub hidden away that they never tell you about.

VEX

5,257 posts

262 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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And they are probably given away or very heavily discounted.

Its marketing and its worked on you! Lol

tonyg58

410 posts

215 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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wjwren said:
Vex, out of interest, why do retail places heavily use Bose? If i go in to River Island, Next or most pubs then they seem to use Bose. It normally sounds pretty decent to my ears.
You have to differentiate between the Bose Pro stuff which is superb, from the Bose personal which is patchy (some of the products are great, like the Quiet Comfort headphones, some others are poor value).
And yes there will be a sub somewhere.

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

151 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Agree that in the local Next which is a new build, there are subs in the ceiling.
Topman on the other hand have Martin, these are pretty decent though ive head are pricey.

tonyg58

410 posts

215 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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VEX said:
So that is the kill or even contradictory question. Would i use my best speaker for just back ground music? At what point does the speaker out perform its function?

Honestly I have installed 100's on basic contractor speakers (traditional bottom of the rung, good name brands) and as back ground music while you're milling around, doing something else they are perfect.

If you're sitting down to listen to music or its a party space where the sound get wound up, that's when and where you spend your money.

IMO, Good, branded speakers are hard to differentiate at this end of the market, my contractor go to are Monitor Audio and then as you move up the requirement factor, Monitor still stay there but for me Sonnance come in, but heard good things about Origin and Paradigm. But we are doubling the budget for their mid-rangers.

V
Great assessment of the situation.