We need a dictator - not spineless politicians!
We need a dictator - not spineless politicians!
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tailslider

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271 posts

284 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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So many things wind me up in this country. It seems were on an unstoppable downward trajectory. Is anyone going to apply the breaks and slow down this madness? I doubt it.

Most of these problems comes down to money - a lack of it. It seems to me we all pay a fortune in taxes, one way and another, so why is everything in such a state? The roads, rail, hospitals, schools and old dears pensions are all in utter decay. So where does all the vast money we pay end up? The vast majority of it ends up in waynes and sharons giro. If we cut out this waste and spent the money where it should go our country would be a better place. At least for those that actually pay for everything.

If I were miraculously elevated to a position of dictator power, I'd reform the whole situation. For a start I don't see why us honest tax payers should be supporting entire families in their central london high-rises. These sites are often squeezed between valauble private property. I'd sell the lot off to private developers to build chic new apartments for city professionals. The scroates that are scattered all over the uk's cities could be relocated to large camps in cheap areas. Tempting to place them in the Shetland Isles, but it could be anywhere really.

Secondly the lazy dhs scroates would be put to work in actually building the camp. I'm not thinking about anything fancy, just a fence surrounding some wooden huts - army style. Obviously this will save billions of pounds, plus it will also act as an incentive to get back in the system. Maybe this will seem a tad harsh to some of you spinless human rights activists but I don't think I should be paying for scroates to sit in central london watching Sky tv all day. At the end of the day we used to have a compulsory National Service in the Army. Bring it back I say! If you want to sit around on handouts, then you can't complain about it. A general all round program of retraining and basic work would mean these camps would pay for themselves. Maybe they could make thing in a camp factory or something.

Think of all the money left over for getting this country back on it's feet. Obviously this will never happen though. Sometimes I wish someone would kick some ass though and shake things up. Unless we clamp down drastically on the wasted billions we'll be in a much worse state in ten years time. Will they do something then? I doubt it.

plotloss

67,280 posts

293 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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American model works to a point.

No high school diploma = no social security benefits

No job = no/minimum healthcare provision

Matt.

M@H

11,298 posts

295 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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Havent we already got a dictatorship.. or so BLiar thinks..??

Matt

Fatboy

8,254 posts

295 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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How about if you don't pay income tax you don't have a vote in General elections, and if you don't pay council tax, you don't have a vote in local elections?

That way at least the politicos would start listening to the people who pay the taxes (and you wouldn't get wit students voting in the wit green party who bollocks up the local government)

CarZee

13,382 posts

290 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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How about if you don't pay income tax you don't have a vote in General elections, and if you don't pay council tax, you don't have a vote in local elections?
You'll probably find a strong link between those who don't vote and those who don't pay any tax..

BTW, if you're talking about people who legitimately pay no tax (pensioners to a point, students, wife at home with kid supported by partner) then I don't agree.

If you're talking about people who unlawfully evade taxes, then sod banning them from voting, throw the buggers in jail and sequester their assets. Oh.. we already do that. In principle..

nubbin

6,809 posts

301 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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The slight flaw in the argument is that unemploment is at a 20 year low, so in theory we are paying for less spongers, and there are motre people paying tax. Unfortunately, the majority of new jobs are low-paid, part-time stuff (barmaids, street sweepers etc) and these then qualify for tax credits due to low pay, because that lovable do-gooder, Mr. Tony Bliar, ahs stuck the minimal wage at a level designed to fleece tax payers for a wet little socialist pinko idea of spreading other people's cash around. Why is it not possible to say there has been, throughout history, rich and poor, and that will always be the case. It's the relative levels of these social strata that count - if the poor have food, and a roof over their heads - result - dignity, (and somewhere to stash the stolen video).

I do wonder where all my tax money goes. It sure as hell isn't propping up the NHS. Oh, and don't forget, your NI contributions go through the roof next year, to pay for all those new hospital beds and nurses. That is where it's going, right?