Time to Get Rid?
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dr_gn

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16,715 posts

206 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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So the government is due to announce a ban on new petrol and diesel cars from 2030.

At what point will this impact classic car prices? Finding fuel will get progressively more difficult after that date. No fuel = no driving = worthless car.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

130 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Fuel will be easy to get for long time, so don't panic.

RDMcG

20,377 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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I agree that it will be available for a long time. Less sure about ice cars being banned in city centres etc and more places being pedestrianized though.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

220 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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The normal lifecycle for a car is 12-18 years so add that onto 2030 as a bare minimum.

Then you have to realise this “ban” is not for commercial vehicles oddly

DoubleD

22,154 posts

130 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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I wouldnt say it was odd, how many battery artics have you seen?

craigjm

20,304 posts

222 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Will probably be about 2050 before petrol gets hard to find

Driver101

14,451 posts

143 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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The predictions of fossil fuels dying out go as far back as I can remember.

dr_gn

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Saturday 14th November 2020
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Driver101 said:
The predictions of fossil fuels dying out go as far back as I can remember.
Big difference between dying out through depletion, and being removed from sale.

dr_gn

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Welshbeef said:
The normal lifecycle for a car is 12-18 years so add that onto 2030 as a bare minimum.

Then you have to realise this “ban” is not for commercial vehicles oddly
With current battery technology, their weight would severely reduce payload. More efficient diesels are being developed for these applications.

dr_gn

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DoubleD said:
Fuel will be easy to get for long time, so don't panic.
I realise that, but at some point people will surely be having one eye on fuel availability for their investment. Not sure how far ahead people view these things.

I built my E-Type over 8 years, starting in ‘94. So in theory petrol will get scarce in less time than I’ve owned it. Doesn’t seem long ago.

When I bought it, I never thought it would increase in value the way it has, nor that petrol could get scarce during my time of ownership. My 13 y/o son’s now got his eye on it, but I’m wondering if we just have a few summers of enjoyment out of it then sell it.

Sooner or later people will be thinking twice about buying an expensive classic car. Question is when?

DoubleD

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130 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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dr_gn said:
DoubleD said:
Fuel will be easy to get for long time, so don't panic.
I realise that, but at some point people will surely be having one eye on fuel availability for their investment. Not sure how far ahead people view these things.

I built my E-Type over 8 years, starting in ‘94. So in theory petrol will get scarce in less time than I’ve owned it. Doesn’t seem long ago.

When I bought it, I never thought it would increase in value the way it has, nor that petrol could get scarce during my time of ownership. My 13 y/o son’s now got his eye on it, but I’m wondering if we just have a few summers of enjoyment out of it then sell it.

Sooner or later people will be thinking twice about buying an expensive classic car. Question is when?
You built your E Type?

If you are already panicking then maybe its time for you to get rid.

If not then just enjoy it, fuel will be with us for many years to come.

sixor8

7,593 posts

290 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Welshbeef said:
The normal lifecycle for a car is 12-18 years so add that onto 2030 as a bare minimum.

Then you have to realise this “ban” is not for commercial vehicles oddly
Nor motorcycles. smile

Electric lorries are a way off yet. Yes Tesla have one but cross continent deliveries are a long way off

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

220 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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sixor8 said:
Nor motorcycles. smile

Electric lorries are a way off yet. Yes Tesla have one but cross continent deliveries are a long way off
Don’t Cummings have one too?

BoRED S2upid

20,913 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Hybrids are still ok after this date aren’t they? They still need petrol.

Turbobanana

7,766 posts

223 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Welshbeef said:
sixor8 said:
Nor motorcycles. smile

Electric lorries are a way off yet. Yes Tesla have one but cross continent deliveries are a long way off
Don’t Cummings have one too?
He may do, but he no longer has a job boxedin

dr_gn

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BoRED S2upid said:
Hybrids are still ok after this date aren’t they? They still need petrol.
I thought they weren't, but it might have changed.

craigjm

20,304 posts

222 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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dr_gn said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Hybrids are still ok after this date aren’t they? They still need petrol.
I thought they weren't, but it might have changed.
They are not throwing all fuel cars off the road when the ban comes in

Scotty2

1,409 posts

288 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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A bit of a virtue signal as the network can't cope if we switched to electric vehicles. Think how many charging points we would need!

dr_gn

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Saturday 14th November 2020
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DoubleD said:
dr_gn said:
DoubleD said:
Fuel will be easy to get for long time, so don't panic.
I realise that, but at some point people will surely be having one eye on fuel availability for their investment. Not sure how far ahead people view these things.

I built my E-Type over 8 years, starting in ‘94. So in theory petrol will get scarce in less time than I’ve owned it. Doesn’t seem long ago.

When I bought it, I never thought it would increase in value the way it has, nor that petrol could get scarce during my time of ownership. My 13 y/o son’s now got his eye on it, but I’m wondering if we just have a few summers of enjoyment out of it then sell it.

Sooner or later people will be thinking twice about buying an expensive classic car. Question is when?
You built your E Type?

If you are already panicking then maybe its time for you to get rid.

If not then just enjoy it, fuel will be with us for many years to come.
"Built" as in I bought it in boxes and a shell as an unfinished project:





It's the one on the right:



House building and family got in the way of actually using it. It hasn't turned a wheel - on the road - in 20 years. Currently getting it ready for the road next year to at least get some enjoyment out of it:



Then I think you're right: Get rid and take the cash. It will be a shame because it feels almost a part of me.

TomTheTyke

481 posts

169 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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I think it will be fine in our lifetimes. Eventually owning an ICE car will become a niche hobby and maybe we'll have to get petrol delivered to homes for classic cars, which will be more expensive but then if you can afford a classic car and probably only run it a few thousand miles a year it will still be fine.

As they said on Top Gear, horse riding didn't end just because they stopped being used for everyday transport.