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Maxym

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2,970 posts

264 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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What do we think of this then?

https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/snakebite/

Edited by Maxym on Monday 16th November 17:49

MDL111

8,772 posts

205 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Pretty cool
And it has a fridge ...

Slippydiff

16,260 posts

251 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Maxym said:
We think it's been discussed recently on the last page of the "997 Appreciation" thread on here smile

Brief summation. It's stunning and it's overpriced (IMO) Though the price seems to be divisive.

Cunno

511 posts

185 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Really like the way it looks and sits, but the price for me means it’s competing against a whole different class of cars which then doesn’t stack up unfortunately

Dr S

5,131 posts

254 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Very pretty car

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

293 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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I don't get how £130k is spent, but I bet it drives ok, but £130k on parts !!!!!!
nothing on it is high end to warrant the money.
cheap seats, cheap brakes, cheap exhaust, cheap shocks, the maths don't work.

Steve Rance

5,453 posts

259 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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You can buy a really good 997GT3 for that money and its got pasm - which makes it liveable with on the road as a daily.

If I wanted the touring look, I'd buy a GT3 and sick a ducktail on it. Fair play for building it but I cant see the attraction of this car at all.


Maxym

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2,970 posts

264 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Sorry I missed it on the other thread... Looks lovely. But it is a lot of dosh.

IMI A

9,959 posts

229 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Beautiful 997. Like what the owner did can't understand why you'd sell though 2k miles later what a waste of money.

Slippydiff

16,260 posts

251 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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IMI A said:
Beautiful 997. Like what the owner did can't understand why you'd sell though 2k miles later what a waste of money.
Evening I. Hope you're well ?

I agree, it's stunning, but I think we're (well I know I am) still struggling to see where the money was spent. Some figures were bandied around on "The 997 Appreciation Thread", but they didn't add up to £130K.

ArchiesDad

169 posts

74 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Not sure that fridge is worth ALL that extra cash...... i'm struggling to thick how £130K would even be considered sensible when you could get a GT3 RS 997 for that, and for the asking price now why ? when you could be into a GT3.

Reminds me very much of a TWISTED Defender ! it's a Defender but it costs 6 Times the Value...... WHY ?

Target audience.

MrVert

4,456 posts

267 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Mad money when a good GT3 can be had for less.

mr pg

2,060 posts

233 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Porsche911R said:
I don't get how £130k is spent, but I bet it drives ok, but £130k on parts !!!!!!
nothing on it is high end to warrant the money.
cheap seats, cheap brakes, cheap exhaust, cheap shocks, the maths don't work.
It's a difficult price bracket to sell, but it's not £130k on parts, it's £130k for the build, so that will include the many hours of labour, and maybe the car purchase also.
I had a brief drive of their first 997CSR, and was considering that route, but much as I like the CSR's, it's difficult to justify against GT3's. The plus side is that you can pick and choose what you fit.

IMI A

9,959 posts

229 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Slippydiff said:
IMI A said:
Beautiful 997. Like what the owner did can't understand why you'd sell though 2k miles later what a waste of money.
Evening I. Hope you're well ?

I agree, it's stunning, but I think we're (well I know I am) still struggling to see where the money was spent. Some figures were bandied around on "The 997 Appreciation Thread", but they didn't add up to £130K.
Yes well H. Beautiful but hard to justify at that level when a standard C2S fine. Maybe labour in there somewhere too?

g7jhp

7,033 posts

266 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Probably should have posted this here.

Try this link

"Talking CSR with the owner of Snakebite - Technik Torque
Following on from Henry Catchpole's fantastic Carfection video on CSR028 ‘Snakebite’ Greig discusses what motivated the owner Chris Wildsmith to build it and how he got his man maths to work!"

Also 911&PorscheWorld article here

Plus Catchpole YouTube vid

churchie2856

512 posts

218 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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The car was built to CSR spec 10K miles ago. The advert states engine rebuild 2K miles ago. In fact the RPM blog has an article all about a 997.1 3.8 rebuild (blueprinting, 370bhp, etc) which I'm sure is the engine in the back of this very car.

What gets me is the owner comissioned a £100K+ rebuild (back to metal, etc), then 8K miles down the road was forking out yet more cash for an engine rebuild! Surely when the car was in bits during the original conversion phase the engine would have been subject to some inspection and the work carried out then.

I'd love to have the kind of money to spend waste on a project like this.


Terminator X

20,257 posts

232 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Maxym said:
What do we think of this then?

https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/snakebite/

Edited by Maxym on Monday 16th November 17:49
£130k of bills yikes

TX.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

293 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Terminator X said:
£130k of bills yikes

TX.
to then sell it 2k miles after the build.

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 19th November 10:50

WD-40

119 posts

160 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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My C4 has spent a fair amount of time at RPM in the past, and it's previous owner and I have spent a lot of money at RPM in the past, and it was and still is a standard C4.

So I can certainly see how a CSR conversion would add up to those figures! Not that I consider it value mind...

Slippydiff

16,260 posts

251 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Listened to the owner's podcast last night.
Prior to the pandemic he was flying around the world every week on business. In the space of 10 days he flew to Singapore for two and half days, then home, then took another flight to Germany, home gain, followed by a flight to Italy and then home again before another flight to Vancouver for 5 days. I imagine the last 8 months have put paid to all that, and he's possibly decided he no longer wants/needs the 997, but would rather concentrate on doing trackdays (or racing ... ?) in his Cayman, or something RS/GT 911 based perhaps ?