Freedom of the land Covid wibble
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Wibble at a tea room near me...
Local BBC website said:
"Two men have been arrested at a tearoom and Christian bookshop that has refused to close under Covid-19 regulations.
Owners of the Mustard Seed in Gedling, Nottinghamshire, cited Magna Carta and common law as reasons to stay open.
On Saturday police officers went to the cafe after reports of a gathering of "40 to 50 people" at the cafe. "
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamsh...
Local BBC website said:
"Two men have been arrested at a tearoom and Christian bookshop that has refused to close under Covid-19 regulations.
Owners of the Mustard Seed in Gedling, Nottinghamshire, cited Magna Carta and common law as reasons to stay open.
On Saturday police officers went to the cafe after reports of a gathering of "40 to 50 people" at the cafe. "
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamsh...
Are they correct and justified in quoting article 61 of Magna Carta: "We have a right to enter into lawful dissent if we feel we are being governed unjustly."
If these people were arrested and chose to go to court how would that article, in court, be presented and would it be considered by a judge or jury as a justified defense?
Never mind, just read further, article 61 of Magna Carta is no longer relevant...I wonder what other clause could help with unlawful tea drinking?
If these people were arrested and chose to go to court how would that article, in court, be presented and would it be considered by a judge or jury as a justified defense?
Never mind, just read further, article 61 of Magna Carta is no longer relevant...I wonder what other clause could help with unlawful tea drinking?
Edited by knitware on Monday 16th November 17:01
eharding said:
GadgeS3C said:
Wibble at a tea room near me...
Local BBC website said:
"Two men have been arrested at a tearoom.."
I got as far as "arrested at a tearoom" and instantly thought of this...Local BBC website said:
"Two men have been arrested at a tearoom.."
knitware said:
Are they correct and justified in quoting article 61 of Magna Carta: "We have a right to enter into lawful dissent if we feel we are being governed unjustly."
If these people were arrested and chose to go to court how would that article, in court, be presented and would it be considered by a judge or jury as a justified defense?
Never mind, just read further, article 61 of Magna Carta is no longer relevant...I wonder what other clause could help with unlawful tea drinking?
Indeed: helpful if you're a 13th century baron. If you're a twenty first century purveyor of nutty pastries and books, not so much. If these people were arrested and chose to go to court how would that article, in court, be presented and would it be considered by a judge or jury as a justified defense?
Never mind, just read further, article 61 of Magna Carta is no longer relevant...I wonder what other clause could help with unlawful tea drinking?
Edited by knitware on Monday 16th November 17:01
Crazy times we live in!knitware said:
Are they correct and justified in quoting article 61 of Magna Carta: "We have a right to enter into lawful dissent if we feel we are being governed unjustly."
If these people were arrested and chose to go to court how would that article, in court, be presented and would it be considered by a judge or jury as a justified defense?
Never mind, just read further, article 61 of Magna Carta is no longer relevant...I wonder what other clause could help with unlawful tea drinking?
I think you'll find that King John, gods bless him, decided to unsign the MC a short while after signing it. It lasted for a shorter period than Blunkett's Criminal Law Act I think. If these people were arrested and chose to go to court how would that article, in court, be presented and would it be considered by a judge or jury as a justified defense?
Never mind, just read further, article 61 of Magna Carta is no longer relevant...I wonder what other clause could help with unlawful tea drinking?
Edited by knitware on Monday 16th November 17:01
It's probably the most overrated bit of paper. In effect, it means little. It was barons, the top couple of percent, saying to the king that they wanted him to stop pressurising them with regards taxes and stuff. Ruling by decree more or less, just like a series of kings did after John.
basherX said:
Indeed: helpful if you're a 13th century baron. If you're a twenty first century purveyor of nutty pastries and books, not so much.
Maybe, not convinced a 13th century hostelry owner would have got far quoting Magna Carta. Well, I guess they might have got further than they'd gone before if the stocks were in the next town 
knitware said:
Are they correct and justified in quoting article 61 of Magna Carta: "We have a right to enter into lawful dissent if we feel we are being governed unjustly."
If these people were arrested and chose to go to court how would that article, in court, be presented and would it be considered by a judge or jury as a justified defense?
Never mind, just read further, article 61 of Magna Carta is no longer relevant...I wonder what other clause could help with unlawful tea drinking?
When you consider manga carta was a time limited piece which has granted no legal foundation, they can say what they want as the act was self repealed soon after publication If these people were arrested and chose to go to court how would that article, in court, be presented and would it be considered by a judge or jury as a justified defense?
Never mind, just read further, article 61 of Magna Carta is no longer relevant...I wonder what other clause could help with unlawful tea drinking?
Edited by knitware on Monday 16th November 17:01
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