Working with somebody who has a dark secret?
Working with somebody who has a dark secret?
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whitesocks

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1,006 posts

68 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Have you ever worked with somebody who turned out to be a wrong-un?

At my old firm, somebody was outed as a nonce. But was still employed there like nothing had even happend (How his employment was allowed to continue, I'll never know)

Hoofy

79,253 posts

304 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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whitesocks said:
Have you ever worked with somebody who turned out to be a wrong-un?

At my old firm, somebody was outed as a nonce. But was still employed there like nothing had even happend (How his employment was allowed to continue, I'll never know)
Assuming it wasn't a school or nursery etc, are you suggesting convicted paedos should just live off the state once they are released from prison?

whitesocks

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1,006 posts

68 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Hoofy said:
Assuming it wasn't a school or nursery etc, are you suggesting convicted paedos should just live off the state once they are released from prison?
Nope, a branch of a UK Supermarket. I found it troublesome that the company still employed him, especially in a role that will bring him into some contact with children.

Colonel Cupcake

1,326 posts

67 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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whitesocks said:
Hoofy said:
Assuming it wasn't a school or nursery etc, are you suggesting convicted paedos should just live off the state once they are released from prison?
Nope, a branch of a UK Supermarket. I found it troublesome that the company still employed him, especially in a role that will bring him into some contact with children.
Just walking down the street would bring him into some contact with children.

What's your solution?

whitesocks

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1,006 posts

68 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Colonel Cupcake said:
Just walking down the street would bring him into some contact with children.

What's your solution?
I didn't start this thread to discuss post-prison life for pedophiles. But if you want my solution, then it includes a 9mm through the cranium.

Edited by whitesocks on Monday 16th November 19:57

aka_kerrly

12,497 posts

232 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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whitesocks said:
At my old firm, somebody was outed as a nonce. But was still employed there like nothing had even happend (How his employment was allowed to continue, I'll never know)
It's a horrible subject to get into, as with all crimes if you have paid your debt to society/served your time or whatever punishment was given to you and have been released then shouldn't you be allowed to carry on your life without being judged for past actions?

  • this is assuming the rehabilitation process as worked and the person has taken part in whatever specialist evaluations may be needed. With sex offenders in particular there are different levels of crime (again horrible to think about) you would need to consider what type of job roles are appropriate but it shouldn't be the case that they are completely unemployable.
I appreciate that I have left myself wide open to someone using for example the London bridge attackers as evidence that not all rehabilitation works and anyone convicted of a crime must rot in jail....



Ekona

1,684 posts

224 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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I work daily with murderers, rapists and paedophiles. But then I work in a prison, so I guess that doesn’t really count...

dxg

10,047 posts

282 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Ekona said:
I work daily with murderers, rapists and paedophiles. But then I work in a prison, so I guess that doesn’t really count...
Blimey! I wonder what the prisoners are like!

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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The facilities guy at one workplace was the wheelman for an armed robbery gang and served 10 years.

He made me laugh when he advised that he had been convicted of the 1 robbery he wasn't involved in.

Wife meets plenty of murderers, rapists etc but she works in forensic psychiatry.

irocfan

46,338 posts

212 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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I would find it difficult to work with certain types of people - but by the same token I also believe in being able to be redeemed/pay your debt to society. If you're going to be forever damned for something you no longer are what's the point in trying to change?

steveo3002

11,043 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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they're only the ones that got caught /found out about , bet there's 1000s of wrong un's amongst us that no one knows about

Magnum 475

3,998 posts

154 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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I worked in a company with a large contact centre over ten years ago. One of the Contact Centre team leads was a guy called Bryan. He left to set up his own business making model railways (seriously). Shortly after that he was in the news after being nicked with multiple thousands of peado images / videos. He always came across as being a bit dim, but essentially harmless. Turns out he was a bit dim, but definitely not harmless.


southendpier

6,020 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Worked with one fella who clamed to be ex special forces. When he left the forces he was part of private security to a national profile high flier back in the 80s. (all of this was true). Ended up working for us. Had to change his name etc was very paranoid about being on a hit list (presumably IRA) and was often very odd. Unfortunately his paranoia eventually made its way toward me and made working life difficult, which was a shame because on his good days he was a very nice fella but the dark days he was worrying. Always wondered what he had got up to...



edc

9,482 posts

273 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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"how his employment was ever allowed to continue"

There is the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act. This gives a tiered system of what you must and do not have to disclose based on severity of crime. Also available to employers were applicable are vetting tools and criminal records background checks, financial checks etc.

wastedyouth86

850 posts

64 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Many Many moons ago my first job at a very large call centre it was discovered that a member of a different team at the second location had been caught doing things with under age lads on web cams and trying to meet them. This was back in the old MSN messenger days.

he got a prison sentence but for some reason they had to legally keep his job open for him to return. He did his time and returned to the role but he was almost a protected class of person if anything was said to him or funny looks he would report straight to HR (could tell he liked the power) i rarely came into contact with him but like others said he was caught and did his time.

the worrying thing is it seems once someone gets a taste for this kinda thing it never seems to leave them and to know he was a functioning adult amongst us was the scary part.

InitialDave

14,279 posts

141 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Worked with a really nice old chap, friendly and helpful, got on well with people etc, been with the company years and years, eventually retired.

Then a couple of years after he retired he was banged up, turns out he'd sexually assaulted several girls aged about 14 when he was in his early 20s, and it took decades to catch up with him.

Worked with some weirdos, but that one caught us all by surprise.

SmoothCriminal

5,766 posts

221 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Guy in the works canteen was a bit odd, most used to take the mick out of him behind his back but I was always alright with him as I felt sorry for him because he always used to shuffle about looking so sad.

Anyway left that job and couple of years later saw him on the news turned out he was a serial killer.

ClaphamGT3

12,014 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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One of my partners at work got caught by one of those vigilante paedophile groups.

Many years ago when I was a child my father's driver got sent to prison for being the getaway driver for a gang of bank robbers

21TonyK

12,904 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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At the age of 19 I ran a training centre for the long term unemployed. That was an eye-opener!!

Trainees who were murderers etc and a member of staff (male 40+) preying on 18 year old's on the programme... that was an interesting "exit interview".

wazztie16

1,632 posts

153 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Worked with a guy for a couple of years who got 12 months for making and possessing indecent photos.

Seemed alright to work with, didn't know him particularly well though.