335d e92 Remap Nerves
335d e92 Remap Nerves
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Jack335d

Original Poster:

3 posts

71 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Hi All,

Apologies if this should fall under another string somewhere. I couldn't see anywhere with the answers I'm after.

I am considering a remap for my 56plate e92 335d.
I am nervous about it though as I can't afford to kill the car or damage the engine.

Does anyone have experience of remapping a 335d?
Does anyone have any thought on remapping in general (to stage 1 only)
Is there any kind of remapping certification or governing body that a remapper should be signed up to?

Thanks in advance.
Jack335d

Mirinjawbro

1,089 posts

94 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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have you contacted any companies?

msl? evolve? dms?

Jack335d

Original Poster:

3 posts

71 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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I have contacted several.
Performance tuning SW, SCM, Gotboost etc.
Companies fairly local to me in South Wales.

Pica-Pica

16,657 posts

114 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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You asked for viewpoints. I personally would not. I have the 309ps version, but I believe that the torque through the transmission is the limiting factor 700Nm is the limit, I believe, and 630Nm Is what mine currently is. IMHO one buys the car for the torque.

Jack335d

Original Poster:

3 posts

71 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Pica-Pica said:
You asked for viewpoints. I personally would not. I have the 309ps version, but I believe that the torque through the transmission is the limiting factor 700Nm is the limit, I believe, and 630Nm Is what mine currently is. IMHO one buys the car for the torque.
Thanks for your comment. I absolutely value everyone's views on this. I'm still thinking about it all and mulling it over. Keen to hear all thoughts and ideas. smile

Huskyman

655 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Just a quick question to the OP, have you carried out a comprehensive health check on the engine before considering tuning? A decent service and a full check of items like the vacuum pipes, intercooler pipe work and the cooling system isn’t a bad idea before adding stress to the engine. Get the car scanned to make sure that there are no faults.
Has the gearbox been serviced? if not get the fluid changed ASAP as this can kill the ‘box especially if your going to shunt more power through it.


Edited by Huskyman on Thursday 19th November 10:03

Vee

3,109 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Having had one that was mapped by the previous owner and then removed when I bought it at 18 months old, I wouldn't bother.
The car is fast enough already and when running right is really good.
However with age and mileage that engine has many issues which will only be exacerbated by mapping it in my opinion.

Mine eventually started using a lot of oil at around 130K and needed an engine rebuild (I sold before the rebuild and was upfront about the oil issue).

E-bmw

13,516 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Jack335d said:
I am considering a remap for my 56plate e92 335d.
I am nervous about it though as I can't afford to kill the car or damage the engine.
There is your answer right there, why risk it.

g3org3y

22,504 posts

221 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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E-bmw said:
Jack335d said:
I am considering a remap for my 56plate e92 335d.
I am nervous about it though as I can't afford to kill the car or damage the engine.
There is your answer right there, why risk it.
Agreed.

Charlie Croker mk2

303 posts

130 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Search "Nutjob" on YouTube , he tuned his 330d and ran its crank bearings shortly after . Just an aside but when have you ever found a 335d lacking in get up and go ?

Huskyman

655 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Charlie Croker mk2 said:
Search "Nutjob" on YouTube , he tuned his 330d and ran its crank bearings shortly after . Just an aside but when have you ever found a 335d lacking in get up and go ?
That was an ex police F11 530d N57 with 170k miles on it. It shat itself on the dyno unsurprisingly. It had previously snapped its chain as well and fair play to nut job he fixed it on the drive. Probably not the best example for a tune! I always thought the E9x was the M57 engine for the 335d?

Jakg

4,050 posts

198 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Huskyman said:
Just a quick question to the OP, have you carried out a comprehensive health check on the engine before considering tuning? A decent service and a full check of items like the vacuum pipes, intercooler pipe work and the cooling system isn’t a bad idea before adding stress to the engine. Get the car scanned to make sure that there are no faults.
Has the gearbox been serviced? if not get the fluid changed ASAP as this can kill the ‘box especially if your going to shunt more power through it.
Exactly this - there's more than enough things to fix before I'd think about tuning - specifically, boost leaks, faults and vacuum leaks.

Then I'd think about the gearbox - check the adaptations to gauge wear.

...then I'd be looking at remapping it.

EDIT - I say that as someone with a 335d whos working through the above - the gearbox looks bad so I need to address that first unless I want a big bill.

helix402

7,913 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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Charlie Croker mk2 said:
Search "Nutjob" on YouTube , he tuned his 330d and ran its crank bearings shortly after . Just an aside but when have you ever found a 335d lacking in get up and go ?
That was an N57. The crank bearings fail on standard engines. Re 335d tuning I wouldn’t bother but we all like to do different things to our cars. (My current 18 year old 330d is tuned, only because I wanted more torque/power-I have no plans for it’s replacement, an E91 335d.)

Shanksy87

392 posts

152 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Personally I don't see too many issues with remapping. You're unlikely to use the extra performance all the time, so risks to doing engine/transmission damage is limited, but it is a risk. Can you afford to replace the engine and or transmission without too much bother? If yes, then crack on, if not then maybe hold off for a bit.

If you do want to go for it, go with one of the more established tuners, you do get what you pay for with this sort of thing.

river_rat

739 posts

233 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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I remapped my 2009 335d - Emaps did the tune.

Was noticeably quicker (and a tiny bit more fuel efficient as an added bonus).

Can't comment on much else as it got stolen a few months later.....

If you are concerned about killing the engine I would probably just leave it alone. As others have said they are pretty quick standard anyway.

Joe5y

1,638 posts

213 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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I had a 335d MY56 many years ago. Had it remapped to c350bhp and c700ft/ibs. Had this done at 62k, by 70k the gearbox went pop. Then injector issues. Then rough idle. Off it went and was sold

smashy

3,108 posts

188 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Joe5y said:
I had a 335d MY56 many years ago. Had it remapped to c350bhp and c700ft/ibs. Had this done at 62k, by 70k the gearbox went pop. Then injector issues. Then rough idle. Off it went and was sold
That gearbox can only take 515ft to be fair

roadsmash

2,667 posts

100 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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The fact is, any performance modification, including a remap, WILL put increased wear and tear on various engine components and other moving parts.

If your primary concern is reliability and it’s vital that the car doesn’t go bang, and you wouldn’t be able to afford to repair a big bill... I’d steer clear.

It’s really quite simple.