Illegal immigrants
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Tuna

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19,930 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Ok, so apparently Blair has given the number of illegal immigrants as around half a million in the uk (or less than 1% of the population). Given the current estimates of the cost of ID cards to 'solve' this problem, the government could offer each and every illegal immigrant ten thousand pounds to own up and leave the country. Then we just shut the doors.

Job done.

Next.

Edited to point out that I'm not being serious. Grrr..

>> Edited by Tuna on Thursday 30th June 14:42

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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I think cashing in 10 or so different giro's under several aliases works out more lucrative for them ?

But seriously, a lot of them are here to escape poverty from their original countries, i imagine it is their intention to make a life here.

>> Edited by scorp on Thursday 30th June 13:40

scared but happy

24,147 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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It is starting to amuse me now that all the previous statistics were unavaliable BEFORE the election but all seem to be creeping out now when its all too late. We have had so far, Hospitals, Traffic and now this. Whats next in the league?

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Tuna said:
Then we just shut the doors.


What exactly do you mean by this comment ?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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1% Come to Peterborough, it's closer to 30%

Bliar by name, Liar by nature.

Anyway, howcome he suddenly knows it's 1% when he refused point blank to answer Paxman's question on the subject

Clio172

79 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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I should think thats obvious

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Clio172 said:
I should think thats obvious


Not really, our doors are already closed to illegal immigration in theory (obviously not doing a good job on the practice side).

Tuna

Original Poster:

19,930 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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scorp said:

Tuna said:
Then we just shut the doors.


What exactly do you mean by this comment ?


Well, we've established that all immigrants are dole-sucking terrorists, so once we've purged the fatherland.. sorry, I mean proud British nation.. of all foreigners, we prevent anyone funny looking from coming into the country. Hence shut the doors.

P.S. I must point out for the humour impared that none of the above or the original post was serious. I was just interested in the numbers - from 300,000 to 500,000 estimated illegal immigrants gives some scale to the issue. The cost of ID cards equates to between 10K and 20K per illegal immigrant and gives us some idea of the scale of the 'solution'.

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Tuna said:

scorp said:


Tuna said:
Then we just shut the doors.



What exactly do you mean by this comment ?



Well, we've established that all immigrants are dole-sucking terrorists, so once we've purged the fatherland.. sorry, I mean proud British nation.. of all foreigners, we prevent anyone funny looking from coming into the country. Hence shut the doors.

P.S. I must point out for the humour impared that none of the above or the original post was serious. I was just interested in the numbers - from 300,000 to 500,000 estimated illegal immigrants gives some scale to the issue. The cost of ID cards equates to between 10K and 20K per illegal immigrant and gives us some idea of the scale of the 'solution'.


Quite a poor percentage really, does anyone know what the ratio is for the US ?

We don't even have land borders with any foreign country so one would assume it would be much more difficult to get here.

Egbert Nobacon

2,835 posts

272 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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On top of that figure is the one for those claiming asylum also released today - c. 720,000 !!!!

Funny how this info suddenly becomes available after the election

Clio172

79 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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you have not been to the docks its like the disembarkation of noahs ark except different races rather than species

maxf

8,444 posts

270 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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Anyone else wondering how they know the number of illegal (ie hiding) immigrants?

How many legal??? As Bliarout says - come to Peterborough (or don;t )

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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maxf said:
Anyone else wondering how they know the number of illegal (ie hiding) immigrants?

How many legal??? As Bliarout says - come to Peterborough (or don;t )


Legal immigration isn't a problem as far as im aware ?

alexkp

16,484 posts

273 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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I would just like to point out that 500,000 illegal immigrants is a huge number!!!

FFS - the fact it is less than one percent of the population is immaterial - I should damn well hope that very few people are living here illegally with no ID, no (worthless) criminal checks, and probably driving with no licence or insurance.

But there are, according to Government figures, which are bound to be low, over half a MILLION such people here.

That is five cities larger than Cambridge, or put another way, Manchester.

>> Edited by alexkp on Thursday 30th June 14:46

MilnerR

8,273 posts

287 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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All the illegal immigrants are going to have ID cards with the words "illegal immigrant" stamped on it. In the same way that terrorists are going to have "terrorist! FAO MI5" stamped on their ID cards. That way when the BiB stop them they'll be able to identify and remove said undesirables.... These clever politicians have thought of everything

DJ111S

30,313 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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BliarOut said:
1% Come to Peterborough, it's closer to 30%

Bliar by name, Liar by nature.

Anyway, howcome he suddenly knows it's 1% when he refused point blank to answer Paxman's question on the subject


One of said local scumbags has just written off my mate's car by side swiping it on a roundabout. Do you think he had insurance?!

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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500,000 is a huge number when you consider we are an island, which is hard to get to without going through a port of entry (i doubt they all swam over the channel).

406

3,636 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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If the government paid less to the illegals and to wars, there would be enough money to give the old a proper life, keep hospital wards open and pay the Nurses what they are worth.

sponging smelly s. Deport the lot of them.

DJ111S

30,313 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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406 said:
If the government paid less to the illegals and to wars, there would be enough money to give the old a proper life, keep hospital wards open and pay the Nurses what they are worth.

sponging smelly s. Deport the lot of them.


What he said!

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Thursday 30th June 2005
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anonymous said:
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Immigrants can come here because they have family here also (not all families are fixed to a single country).

I wonder how these ID cards are going to solve this, as the already illegal immigrant population can forge a birth certificate and then apply for an ID card, effectively granting themselves full citizenship.