So the Police cannot remove people from private land?
Discussion
Bit of a video doing the rounds locally.
One of these weirdos who just goes and films people, police, security etc to wind them up and put them on YouBend.
he goes to the local constabulary HQ and nearby is their mounted HQ branch. He's filming their vehicles, the civvie vet that is working in the courtyard etc.
He's stood on the constabulary property, at the entrance to the service road that leads into the yard. I could only stomatch a few minutes of this 20 minute long dribble fest, but essentially, the cop told him to move onto the other side of the road, the public bit and he refused, the bobby moves him back and he starts screaming about assault and all that s
t.
I'm not posting the video because these cretins thrive off likes. Its no surprise he disabled comments on the vid.
Anyway, can the cop legally not touch him? Trespassing seems to be "civil" according to google, so can I just go and sit on someones drive and they cant touch me? Does this mean I can just freely walk in and around a police station, go and say hello to the detainees and cant be removed until a court order is issued ordering me to leave? It seems a bit odd....
One of these weirdos who just goes and films people, police, security etc to wind them up and put them on YouBend.
he goes to the local constabulary HQ and nearby is their mounted HQ branch. He's filming their vehicles, the civvie vet that is working in the courtyard etc.
He's stood on the constabulary property, at the entrance to the service road that leads into the yard. I could only stomatch a few minutes of this 20 minute long dribble fest, but essentially, the cop told him to move onto the other side of the road, the public bit and he refused, the bobby moves him back and he starts screaming about assault and all that s
t.I'm not posting the video because these cretins thrive off likes. Its no surprise he disabled comments on the vid.
Anyway, can the cop legally not touch him? Trespassing seems to be "civil" according to google, so can I just go and sit on someones drive and they cant touch me? Does this mean I can just freely walk in and around a police station, go and say hello to the detainees and cant be removed until a court order is issued ordering me to leave? It seems a bit odd....
You could be arrested for obstruction if you tried to enter a custody suite.
Trespass is a civil wrong. Trespass in some places (eg military bases) is a criminal offence. Some forms of squatting are criminal offences.
A police officer cannot use force save in defence of life or to prevent a crime.
It is not a good idea to wish for police to have more powers, or to be able to manhandle people save in extreme circumstances. Putting up with idiots is a part of being free.
Trespass is a civil wrong. Trespass in some places (eg military bases) is a criminal offence. Some forms of squatting are criminal offences.
A police officer cannot use force save in defence of life or to prevent a crime.
It is not a good idea to wish for police to have more powers, or to be able to manhandle people save in extreme circumstances. Putting up with idiots is a part of being free.
Breadvan72 said:
Yes, I am sorry if I appeared to suggest otherwise. I meant to include that in preventing crime.
Bit tricky if the crime has already occurred and Billy Burglar decides he’s going to put up a fight... 
I would agree with you that we (the cops) don’t need more powers, we just need to know and use the ones we’ve already got.
Dibble said:
Bit tricky if the crime has already occurred and Billy Burglar decides he’s going to put up a fight...
I would agree with you that we (the cops) don’t need more powers, we just need to know and use the ones we’ve already got.
Isn't resisting arrest a crime in and of itself?I would agree with you that we (the cops) don’t need more powers, we just need to know and use the ones we’ve already got.
Breadvan72 said:
You could be arrested for obstruction if you tried to enter a custody suite.
Trespass is a civil wrong. Trespass in some places (eg military bases) is a criminal offence. Some forms of squatting are criminal offences.
A police officer cannot use force save in defence of life or to prevent a crime.
It is not a good idea to wish for police to have more powers, or to be able to manhandle people save in extreme circumstances. Putting up with idiots is a part of being free.
The police can use force in quite a few more situations than you mention. Here is some guidance:Trespass is a civil wrong. Trespass in some places (eg military bases) is a criminal offence. Some forms of squatting are criminal offences.
A police officer cannot use force save in defence of life or to prevent a crime.
It is not a good idea to wish for police to have more powers, or to be able to manhandle people save in extreme circumstances. Putting up with idiots is a part of being free.
https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/publ...
The owner of the land is responsible for removing a trespasser using the minimum of force. My understanding is that if police did attend, their role would be to prevent a breach of the peace. i.e give me assistance should I require it. Of course, with things as they now are, I may be a little out of date....
un1corn said:
Does this mean I can just freely walk in and around a police station, go and say hello to the detainees and cant be removed until a court order is issued ordering me to leave? It seems a bit odd....
Seems odd because is odd. Why the extreme extrapolation? Of course it doesn't mean that!PrinceRupert said:
Dibble said:
Bit tricky if the crime has already occurred and Billy Burglar decides he’s going to put up a fight...
I would agree with you that we (the cops) don’t need more powers, we just need to know and use the ones we’ve already got.
Isn't resisting arrest a crime in and of itself?I would agree with you that we (the cops) don’t need more powers, we just need to know and use the ones we’ve already got.
un1corn said:
Pothole said:
Seems odd because is odd. Why the extreme extrapolation? Of course it doesn't mean that!
Ok, so why cant I just walk into a Police station and have a walk around? Theoretically though, if you were merely trespassing I think a court order would be needed. I could be wrong though.
Potentially aggregated trespass and disorderly conduct are a police station (is that what’s its called?) depending on your behaviour.
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