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over_the_hill

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3,285 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Doesn't seem to have made these pages yet

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-5...

Amazon lorry driver 'tried to ram motorist' in Derbyshire

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Will the police do anything? We were purposefully rammed off the road by another driver, had three witnesses to what he did and he wasn’t punished. Just told “let insurance sort it”.

Digga

46,654 posts

307 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Unfortunately, since the introduction of the driver CPC scheme, we have drastically reduced our pool of experienced drivers in the UK.

Couple this to the barely existent policing of haulage firms, both UK and European, and this is what you get. UK and European firms allowed to operate out of laybys and industrial estates, with little to no checks from DVSA.

All of this exacerbated by the biggest online sales year ever.

milkround

1,331 posts

103 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Amazon don’t have lorry drivers. lol in the uk. They sub it out. Just a general haulage driver acting like a tool. Nothing out of the ordinary.

milkround

1,331 posts

103 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Digga said:
Unfortunately, since the introduction of the driver CPC scheme, we have drastically reduced our pool of experienced drivers in the UK.

Couple this to the barely existent policing of haulage firms, both UK and European, and this is what you get. UK and European firms allowed to operate out of laybys and industrial estates, with little to no checks from DVSA.

All of this exacerbated by the biggest online sales year ever.
What are you basing that on? As I disagree with most of it.

There are loads of people with hgv licences. The lords did a report stating this. They just are not willing to work for the wage and conditions for the most part. Cpc is an incredibly low barrier to entry. Sit in front of your computer for 35 hours and pay less than 200 quid and you have it for 5 years. Companies struggling for drivers could even pay for it... I know a radical idea.

Little or no checks... apart from the Dvsa which basically operate like a police force for heavy goods vehicles. And the normal police. And companies themselves being more proactive than most. Let’s not forget that you have a card which you have to use that records what you are doing.

And there is no exasperation... loads of work has been cancelled and been moved over to online style work. Look at stagetruck and flybynite pulling for Amazon and others due to no event work. There really isn’t a massive shortage of hauliers with lorries and drivers causing problems... which is evidenced by the rates Amazon are offering on relay.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

248 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Is it true in Poland if you drive a lorry in the army with little oversight, then you can transfer that to other eu countries as an hgv licence?

Digga

46,654 posts

307 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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milkround said:
Little or no checks... apart from the Dvsa which basically operate like a police force for heavy goods vehicles. And the normal police. And companies themselves being more proactive than most. Let’s not forget that you have a card which you have to use that records what you are doing.
I can tell you, there are Bulgarian trucks using th elocal industrial estate as a full-time base. Camping out week in, week out, waiting for return loads and the drivers are not following letter of the law WRT breaks away from the vehicle.

I know a lot of UK drivers who, for various reasons have dropped out. Many have no permanent employer, through which the cost of (constantly re-) training could be reasonably defrayed.