Biden Irish?

[Armchair Expert]

Forgive me if this has been answered, I have looked and found nothing.

Does anyone else find it bizarre that Biden sees himself as Irish?

[irc]

Well his ancestors were Irish a century and a half ago. So Biden thinking he has some special right to intefere in UK-Irish politics is like a black American telling Nigeria how to run their country because their ancestors were African a long long time ago.

[RDMcG]

Common US thing...lots of people identify with their ancestry despite not having been born or raised in country involved.

[Ayahuasca]

He has English ancestry too, and the Biden name is English.

[Tallow]

irc said:

Well his ancestors were Irish a century and a half ago. So Biden thinking he has some special right to intefere in UK-Irish politics is like a black American telling Nigeria how to run their country because their ancestors were African a long long time ago.

Biden "thinks" he can interfere with UK-Irish politics because the US are guarantors of the Good Friday Agreement, not because he thinks he's Irish. It's hardly a surprising stance, and he is far from the only one in the political establishment of the USA to have this point of view.
But suuuuurrreeee, he's a crazy American with some kind of identity crisis

[Fat Fairy]

Tallow said:

Biden "thinks" he can interfere with UK-Irish politics because the US are guarantors of the Good Friday Agreement, not because he thinks he's Irish. It's hardly a surprising stance, and he is far from the only one in the political establishment of the USA to have this point of view.
But suuuuurrreeee, he's a crazy American with some kind of identity crisis

Where does it say that the US 'Guarantees'the GFA?

I have not been able to find that passage.

FF

[anonymoususer]

It's a thing of convenience. Play on any Irish connections to try and secure the irish votes in the US
Amazing how many celebs and politicos do this when its beneficial to them

[Tony Starks]

anonymoususer said:

It's a thing of convenience. Play on any Irish connections to try and secure the irish votes in the US
Amazing how many celebs and politicos do this when its beneficial to them

I've never understood this whole mindset in the US. Why can't you just be American?

I'm a quarter German, yet I'm just British. My wife is an 8th Croatian and the rest is New Zealand, but just like my kids they're New Zealanders

[AW111]

TBF it does seem to be a bit of an Irish thing.

My FIL identified as Irish, despite being 3 generations living in Aus.

[Shnozz]

RDMcG said:

Common US thing...lots of people identify with their ancestry despite not having been born or raised in country involved.

Indeed. Same with Canada I found. Many times in Toronto (usually on a tinder date) a lady would say she was Irish. Naturally I’d ask where in Ireland they were from and then it would transpire it was 3/4 generations prior that had some link. Truly bizarre. We could collectively claim to be African through ancestry but then where we were originally from at birth would become an irrelevance. It’s a bit odd to my eyes that so many Americans are so desperate to claim they are from Ireland. Don’t know what the fascination is to present as that nationality (especially when it’s an embarrassingly tenuous connection often).

[Tony Starks]

It seems over there your either Italian American, Irish American, African American, Amish, Jewish or Redneck.

[Pothole]

Tony Starks said:

anonymoususer said:

It's a thing of convenience. Play on any Irish connections to try and secure the irish votes in the US
Amazing how many celebs and politicos do this when its beneficial to them

I've never understood this whole mindset in the US. Why can't you just be American?

I'm a quarter German, yet I'm just British. My wife is an 8th Croatian and the rest is New Zealand, but just like my kids they're New Zealanders

Perfectly illustrated by the way they and we refer to ourselves. 7th generation yank says they're Italian American or black person whose ancestors were shipped over 300 years ago says they're African American whereas second generation Bengali kids call themselves British Asian...go figure, as the (insert "heritage" here) Americans would say.

[Deathmole]

Tony Starks said:

It seems over there your either Italian American, Irish American, African American, Amish, Jewish or Redneck.

Or Texan

[Bill]

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