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galtezza said:
So, what are your lowest arrival ranges left? I did 200kms yesterday and arrived at home with this, left home half full and was questioning wether to set off or not, i dont really get range anxiety anymore..
Just be aware battery charge status gets very unpredictable at sub 20%. The BMS is guessing at how much charge is left, if you want to play the game be prepared to call out a tow truck and waste a good hours of your life.If I think am going to arrive with less than 10% I find charging enroute.
bristolracer said:
I know little about EVs
What happens if you run out? Do you have to be recovered? Or do the breakdown companies have some kind of booster?
You sit by the side of the road waiting for a tow truck to take you either home or to a charger. If you are really unluckily and the 12v battery also dies you might even need to take it to a dealer to sort out.What happens if you run out? Do you have to be recovered? Or do the breakdown companies have some kind of booster?
Most EVs also cannot 'rapid' charge on a totally empty battery, so even when you get towed to a charger you have to wait.
There are no road side boosters.
Essentially unless you enjoy wasting time at the side of the road, don't get into a situation when you might run out of charge.
gangzoom said:
bristolracer said:
I know little about EVs
What happens if you run out? Do you have to be recovered? Or do the breakdown companies have some kind of booster?
You sit by the side of the road waiting for a tow truck to take you either home or to a charger. If you are really unluckily and the 12v battery also dies you might even need to take it to a dealer to sort out.What happens if you run out? Do you have to be recovered? Or do the breakdown companies have some kind of booster?
Most EVs also cannot 'rapid' charge on a totally empty battery, so even when you get towed to a charger you have to wait.
There are no road side boosters.
Essentially unless you enjoy wasting time at the side of the road, don't get into a situation when you might run out of charge.
So the AA and RAC are going to need a lot more recovery trucks when the EV becomes available to masses. Cue compo faces in news stories
gangzoom said:
bristolracer said:
I know little about EVs
What happens if you run out? Do you have to be recovered? Or do the breakdown companies have some kind of booster?
You sit by the side of the road waiting for a tow truck to take you either home or to a charger. If you are really unluckily and the 12v battery also dies you might even need to take it to a dealer to sort out.What happens if you run out? Do you have to be recovered? Or do the breakdown companies have some kind of booster?
Most EVs also cannot 'rapid' charge on a totally empty battery, so even when you get towed to a charger you have to wait.
There are no road side boosters.
Essentially unless you enjoy wasting time at the side of the road, don't get into a situation when you might run out of charge.
Indeed, they will charge your car enough to get you to the nearest fixed charger.
I guess if you really are miles from one it makes more sense to just recover it back to home or a fast charger.
The VW they tested did allow for another minute or so at a couple of miles an hour to get you out of danger.
I guess if you really are miles from one it makes more sense to just recover it back to home or a fast charger.
The VW they tested did allow for another minute or so at a couple of miles an hour to get you out of danger.
The recovery services only need to put enough in to get you to a nearby charger (even a 7kw one). If they can get that van to you quicker than a flatbed then it’s better all round.
I’ve got down to the range disappearing but VW force the car into the most efficient mode (no heating/AC, sluggish acceleration) with about 9 miles left to really make sure you can cover that. Ask for too much power with a couple of miles to go and you get the turtle light - mimimal power but it’ll keep on moving. Have to be trying pretty hard to run out completely.
I’ve got down to the range disappearing but VW force the car into the most efficient mode (no heating/AC, sluggish acceleration) with about 9 miles left to really make sure you can cover that. Ask for too much power with a couple of miles to go and you get the turtle light - mimimal power but it’ll keep on moving. Have to be trying pretty hard to run out completely.
gangzoom said:
galtezza said:
So, what are your lowest arrival ranges left? I did 200kms yesterday and arrived at home with this, left home half full and was questioning wether to set off or not, i dont really get range anxiety anymore..
Just be aware battery charge status gets very unpredictable at sub 20%. The BMS is guessing at how much charge is left, if you want to play the game be prepared to call out a tow truck and waste a good hours of your life.If I think am going to arrive with less than 10% I find charging enroute.
It’s been very accurate since update
sjg said:
The recovery services only need to put enough in to get you to a nearby charger (even a 7kw one). If they can get that van to you quicker than a flatbed then it’s better all round.
I’ve got down to the range disappearing but VW force the car into the most efficient mode (no heating/AC, sluggish acceleration) with about 9 miles left to really make sure you can cover that. Ask for too much power with a couple of miles to go and you get the turtle light - mimimal power but it’ll keep on moving. Have to be trying pretty hard to run out completely.
I’ve got down to the range disappearing but VW force the car into the most efficient mode (no heating/AC, sluggish acceleration) with about 9 miles left to really make sure you can cover that. Ask for too much power with a couple of miles to go and you get the turtle light - mimimal power but it’ll keep on moving. Have to be trying pretty hard to run out completely.
actual answer to post 
Same re power reduction, after 8km but it’d still pull 80kmh
Never been below 10% in our model 3. 99% of our trips are < 100 miles and with the car charging overnight at home it is always topped up and ready to go. Any longer trips we use the supercharging network and charge enough to give us a buffer should we need it.
Was never one for petrol station roulette when we drove ICE and similarly averse now we have an EV. No reason for it other than in exceptional circumstances.
Was never one for petrol station roulette when we drove ICE and similarly averse now we have an EV. No reason for it other than in exceptional circumstances.
Left work yesterday for a 31-mile journey home with 37 miles range. Cooler weather and a heavy right foot didn't help, but then a road closure and 5-mile detour saw me rocking up with "---" showing.
This is a 40kwh Zoe. At about 10 miles it flashed up "Low Range - Consider Eco Process" and then from 5 miles just beeped at me every couple of minutes with the range and battery showing in red. After 4 miles the range number disappears.
I didn't notice any drop in performance so I expect I had a little way to go before truly getting stuck. Only did about a mile or so after the range number disappeared.
Ive always played petrol roulette (as someone put it) i get a kick out of risk taking, always have, the small or big and its paid off but i thats not for everyone and i get that, probably much of the phycological draw is the fact that others wont do it.. ‘if’ risk takers get away with it then they win big time, its hardly putting it all on red but its fun nonetheless
bristolracer said:
gangzoom said:
bristolracer said:
I know little about EVs
What happens if you run out? Do you have to be recovered? Or do the breakdown companies have some kind of booster?
You sit by the side of the road waiting for a tow truck to take you either home or to a charger. If you are really unluckily and the 12v battery also dies you might even need to take it to a dealer to sort out.What happens if you run out? Do you have to be recovered? Or do the breakdown companies have some kind of booster?
Most EVs also cannot 'rapid' charge on a totally empty battery, so even when you get towed to a charger you have to wait.
There are no road side boosters.
Essentially unless you enjoy wasting time at the side of the road, don't get into a situation when you might run out of charge.
So the AA and RAC are going to need a lot more recovery trucks when the EV becomes available to masses. Cue compo faces in news stories
Heres Johnny said:
I’m not sure how taking this risk makes you win “big time”. Just sounds like being an idiot to me
It will to many (like you) but risk takers tend to be the ones who make it in life and achieve the fuk you lifestyle (see gambler)Running things low, petrol or EV is just a tiny bit of this attitude that filters down, of course it doesn’t mean you achieve loads because you enjoy running things low, ‘that’s’ Idiotic to think
galtezza said:
Heres Johnny said:
I’m not sure how taking this risk makes you win “big time”. Just sounds like being an idiot to me
It will to many (like you) but risk takers tend to be the ones who make it in life and achieve the fuk you lifestyle (see gambler)Running things low, petrol or EV is just a tiny bit of this attitude that filters down, of course it doesn’t mean you achieve loads because you enjoy running things low, ‘that’s’ Idiotic to think
Calculated risk yes. Risking a breakdown at the side of a busy road, 2 hours of pissing about and a considerable recovery cost for the sake of a mild adrenalin rush and saving 10 minutes at a charger isn't that I'd suggest?
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