Black paint, bird poo, Fairy liquid and...
Black paint, bird poo, Fairy liquid and...
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jimmy156

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3,760 posts

208 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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a kitchen sponge...

Without wanting to go into too much detail, apart from to say "it wasn't me guv" the aforementioned equipment was used to clean a lot of bird poo of most panels on my wife's car. Below are some picture of the damage...

Questions

1. Will this polish out by hand with some elbow grease?
2. If not, will it polish out with a machine polisher?
3. Would this come under a "paint correction" and if so what sort of price am I looking at? The car has scores of tiny dents on it from being parked under an oak tree, so there is little point spending loads getting it looking perfect... But I am afraid to wash as i fear just how bad it will actually look. Currently the layer of crud largely masks the damage hehe




sociopath

3,433 posts

87 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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A kitchen sponge?

What was it made out of, wire wool?

A machine polish might work, depends how deep you/your wife scratched it.

Csnt see anything less even touching it

jimmy156

Original Poster:

3,760 posts

208 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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A kitchen sponge with a green scourer pad on one side...

You cannot feel the scratches and they don't catch on a finger nail, so I was hoping they could be polished out!

Crafty_

13,826 posts

221 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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You might be able ot polish those out. Concern is if you break through the lacquer (if there is any) or the paint (if no lacquer). Either way I should imagine it'd leave whats there pretty thing.

I doubt you will manage it by hand. I think you need a DA at least.

You'd also need some different grades of polish and probably backing pads too. I can see you needing something like fastcut first and then refine down.

In short, I'd find a local detailer and ask them if they can fix, if not its paintshop time...

blueg33

43,958 posts

245 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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bloody hell!

Thats a mess, bird poo can be quite abrasive, that added to a scourer = op's wife's car - first question - op is your wife ok or do you have a new patio? assuming wife is the culprit.

I reckon it would polish out, but I would want a professional detailer to do it.

Sheepshanks

38,795 posts

140 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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FIL had a black car and was forever arriving with scratches down the length of it having pulled over too far on country lanes. Mostly they polished out fine with whatever I had to hand - often just Autoglym polish, although that tends to fill scratches.

I'd suggest not rubbing to hard on any edges, panel curves etc.

320d is all you need

2,114 posts

64 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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That's horrific.

You can probably recover it.

I have quite a lot of experience polishing cars

That will be a job for a a decent DA (Rupes etc) or Rotary, with a MF cutting pad / orange / yellow foam pad and quite an aggressive compound like Scholl S3 XXL. Probably will take a couple of hits.

Then you can refine back

Best bet if you're un sure is to book in with a good quality detailer.

You can find some on Professional Valeters and Detailers website.

I'd expect for an SUV (Qashqai size etc) to be around £500 all in for a decent polish with a normal wax/sealant - add £150 if you want a ceramic coating
If it's a Porsche Macan/ Cayenne or Range Rover then starting prices starting at £700.

You could probably do it yourself, plenty of videos online, but it would take a lot of time.

If you're ever near Gloucester in the near future I can attempt to restore a panel for you at no charge to see what's possible.

Summit_Detailing

2,324 posts

214 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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Ooops, that's not gone well!

What car is it OP?..this will make a difference to how it responds to machine polishing but I'd hazard a guess that most if not all of that could be rectified.

If you are local to Weston-super-Mare I'd happily take a look and do a test area FOC.

Cheers,

Chris

jimmy156

Original Poster:

3,760 posts

208 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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Thanks for all the responses, I will try and address everything you have all said!

Firstly, I am not going to try and machine polish myself, I will defiantly make it a fk lot worse!

It is good to know that most of you suggest it should polish out with a professional detail / paint correction. As I have said, the bonnet and roof are peppered with acorn sized dents from the tree it is usually parked under, so I am not worried about getting it perfect. I need to wash it (with a microfibre mit and not a scourer) to see exactly how bad the damage is, its hard to tell under layers of grime.

Thank you very much to the both of you for offering your services, unfortunately I am not local to either of you (we are Hampshire.)

Yes it was my wife, and no i don't have a new patio hehe Its her car, so whilst I am upset on her behalf, I am not going to get annoyed about it!

ETA: The car is a Nissan Qashqai

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3,910 posts

72 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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May I suggest you discourage your good lady from washing her car with dishwashing detergent. It contains a surprising amount of salt as a thickening agent and (presumably) water softener. Also many contain quite strong alkalis which do the paint no favours.
Supermarket brand shampoo is supposedly effective and cheap but I've never tried it myself, supermarkets also have their own brand car washing soaps which work fine.

320d is all you need

2,114 posts

64 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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Reasonably soft paint on the modern Quasqihsdidshidhiqi.

I reckon most of that would come out. Wouldn't be perfect.

Even if it was my Wife's car, I'd be furious at her stupidity! hehe

jimmy156

Original Poster:

3,760 posts

208 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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I would not have recommended it either...

Washing the cars is my domain, and If i don't get around to doing hers she will usually stick it through a car wash. But the car was going in for it's service / MOT and I had mad a comment about it being best not to take it in covered in st and looking like a complete shed, but then didn't get time to wash it, so she took matters into her own hands hehe

Good to know if should be fixable without needing paint. Anyone got a recommendation for a detailer in Hampshire/Surrey?

tylerjackoliver

9 posts

64 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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jimmy156 said:
Good to know if should be fixable without needing paint. Anyone got a recommendation for a detailer in Hampshire/Surrey?
Envy Car Care in Fareham is my usual recommendation, but with the disclaimer that this is quite an extreme case...!

You could also try Renovatio Detailing, in Surrey.