991.2 Turbo or 991.1 Turbo S
991.2 Turbo or 991.1 Turbo S
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Tonyscars30

Original Poster:

59 posts

70 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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I am looking at buying a 991.2 Turbo or 991.1 Turbo S (roughly same price in todays market).

I am unsure which is the better option and if would I notice the differences between the two models.
I currently have apple car play in my car and find it very useful but would the 991.1 Turbo S out way the small advantage of an updated PCM?
Any other fundamental differences between the two apart from power and brakes?

Appreciate any advice?




Heathrow

452 posts

153 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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All depends on whether you want to go stupidly fast or really stupidly fast. smile

As well as the things you highlight the Gen 2 Turbo has the improved electrical power steering which is a noticeable improvement on the Gen 1.

The S comes with centre locks and ceramic brakes as standard plus a few other bits. The 991.2 Turbo does get the rear wheel steer as standard like the Turbo S.

Depends on what you value most in a car. Be in no doubt, the non S is a very fast road car. I would question anyone to say they *need* more power - especially if you intend to daily the car right throughout winter. Although I can see the appeal of the Turbo S as the top-of-the-tree car.

7184c

423 posts

114 months

Monday 7th December 2020
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I have been watching these for a while. Seems to be roughly about half the number of turbo to turbo s for sale at any one time. Also if you want a colour other than black or white there is an even smaller selection.

I would try and drive both if you can. Both are faster than you will ever need but for me it comes down to car play and that I could keep a newer car in warranty for longer. Both will be reliable and cheap to run (comparatively to other makes). I can’t understand how you can get carplay OEM fitted in a 996 but not first generation 9X1. There are of course aftermarket options.

991.2 did feel sharper to me. Some hang around for a long time when unrealistically priced. Others get snapped up quickly - I missed out on a Carmine red non s coupe while away which seems to be a rare colour and haven’t seen one come up for a long time. OPC numbers of the .2 seem to have increased recently since the arrival of the new model. Don’t be afraid to make a cheeky bid before year end.

Tonyscars30

Original Poster:

59 posts

70 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Thanks, its interesting a lot more 991.1 Turbo S available than 991.2 Turbo.

nw942

468 posts

128 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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I've been pondering the same question too.

One other factor is whether you want PDCC or not - obviously standard on the S? It was menntioned on an Evo video review of a 2014 991 Turbo, and I also found this old thread on it too.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Nuttcase

633 posts

143 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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You might find something useful in the older threads below. I'd go for the 991.2 and forego the centre lock wheels and ceramics, although one owner posting on one of threads below stated that the C/L are no bother if you have the tools and he annually switches over to a winter wheel set. I know we dont buy these cars for the UI but in reality its something we use every day and the .2 is a step forward for sure.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

WCZ

11,297 posts

217 months

Tuesday 8th December 2020
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Turbo S incase you need to get away from the police

Tonyscars30

Original Poster:

59 posts

70 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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Nuttcase said:
You might find something useful in the older threads below. I'd go for the 991.2 and forego the centre lock wheels and ceramics, although one owner posting on one of threads below stated that the C/L are no bother if you have the tools and he annually switches over to a winter wheel set. I know we dont buy these cars for the UI but in reality its something we use every day and the .2 is a step forward for sure.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Really helpful response. The UI makes a big difference for daily usability and thankfully managed to stretch and get a Gen 2 S (so best of both worlds).

jay2000

146 posts

124 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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Heathrow said:
All depends on whether you want to go stupidly fast or really stupidly fast.
Thats all you need to consider. Both are extremely desirable cars.

jonny finance

1,001 posts

229 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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And if one wantS to go insanely and freaky fast whilst actually sounding like a proper 911, re bolt on full Fabspeed and Cobb system.
I know where said kit is - awaiting new fruitcake owner

interstellar

4,785 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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Tonyscars30 said:
Really helpful response. The UI makes a big difference for daily usability and thankfully managed to stretch and get a Gen 2 S (so best of both worlds).
So you bought one OP?

When’s the exciting collection day?

Tonyscars30

Original Poster:

59 posts

70 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Tuesday! Early Christmas present!

I havent seen the car but the OPC photos look good.


Porsche911R

21,146 posts

288 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Heathrow said:
All depends on whether you want to go stupidly fast or really stupidly fast. smile

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the 991.2 Turbo is just as fast as the 991.1 Turbo S !!!

FredFlacht

36 posts

63 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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991.2 is the better looking car.

arcamalpha

1,113 posts

187 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Tonyscars30 said:
Tuesday! Early Christmas present!

I havent seen the car but the OPC photos look good.

Fantastic. There’s something very special about a Turbo.

Consider a light geo adjustment if, after you’ve got used to it, you want it to feel more alive. They run very little camber at factory settings which helps them grip but also makes them a bit benign.

Mintbird

601 posts

124 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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no contest 991.2 Turbo all day. more modern, just as fast

Slaav

4,347 posts

233 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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Mintbird said:
no contest 991.2 Turbo all day. more modern, just as fast
I quite like my 991.2 Turbo S.

Only had it since the late summer but the ‘best’ description I use to describe it is ‘completely benign and drivable every day when you need it to be and utterly implausibly insane when you want it to be.’

Absolutely love it - and it’s a Cab!! Although haven’t really had the roof down much......

IMO, the 991.2 raised the bar further and just felt more modern. I also think they’re beautiful to look at (despite being a cab before anyone says it smile )

Tonyscars30

Original Poster:

59 posts

70 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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I have had the car a few days, and its incredible.

One question - which is not unique to the Turbo but the 991.2 - is my settings keep resetting each time I get out the car (in particular seat position, door lock, reverse mirror adjustment).

I did not have this issue in my 991.2 GTS - but has happened each of the last few days.

Has anyone else encountered this issue?

Slaav

4,347 posts

233 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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Tonyscars30 said:
I have had the car a few days, and its incredible.

One question - which is not unique to the Turbo but the 991.2 - is my settings keep resetting each time I get out the car (in particular seat position, door lock, reverse mirror adjustment).

I did not have this issue in my 991.2 GTS - but has happened each of the last few days.

Has anyone else encountered this issue?
I assume you’ve set them properly with memory etc and not mixing your keys up?


arcamalpha

1,113 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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There’s a setting in the central PCM to turn on and off the memory thing. I think it’s called comfort access.