Let's Just Appreciate how insanely Cheap Food is in UK
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Even someone not that well off having to work for the minimum wage still would only need to work
~3minutes to afford 1kilo of rice (42p).
~5minutes to afford a decent loaf of bread (75p)
~5minutes to afford 1kilo of any prepered chopped frozen vegetables (75p)
~5minutes to afford a kilo of bananas shipped to you from thousands of miles away (70p)
~3minutes to afford 1kilo of potatoes/carrots (45p)
While someone in the ultra-poor countries on the minimum wage would often have to work 1/3 of a day to afford the same 1kg of rice.
I'm yet to see a cheaper country than UK for basic produce/goods.
~3minutes to afford 1kilo of rice (42p).
~5minutes to afford a decent loaf of bread (75p)
~5minutes to afford 1kilo of any prepered chopped frozen vegetables (75p)
~5minutes to afford a kilo of bananas shipped to you from thousands of miles away (70p)
~3minutes to afford 1kilo of potatoes/carrots (45p)
While someone in the ultra-poor countries on the minimum wage would often have to work 1/3 of a day to afford the same 1kg of rice.
I'm yet to see a cheaper country than UK for basic produce/goods.
Not sure what the prices are based on but you also don’t take account for the energy cost in preparing and cooking those.
I’d suggest that many Asian countries are actually cheaper to but rice and fresh veg - yes the income is lower but the prices are rock bottom.
I bought a 10kg bag of rice from a paddy seller in Thailand for 15 or 20 baht about 18mths ago on the highway south of Bangkok. That’s about £0.0375 per kg.
I’d suggest that many Asian countries are actually cheaper to but rice and fresh veg - yes the income is lower but the prices are rock bottom.
I bought a 10kg bag of rice from a paddy seller in Thailand for 15 or 20 baht about 18mths ago on the highway south of Bangkok. That’s about £0.0375 per kg.
As Alorotom says, the costs of production and transport is much lower elsewhere so the purchase cost is also lower. You'd need to know the average income against the cost of an item to work out whether it was truly more affordable.
Regards to your initial list of foods, I know that bananas are often sold as a 'loss leader' - I believe this is to do with them always being included in the "comparison basket" of foods to make each supermarket look like the best value. This also puts pressure on suppliers to reduce costs etc etc.
Regards to your initial list of foods, I know that bananas are often sold as a 'loss leader' - I believe this is to do with them always being included in the "comparison basket" of foods to make each supermarket look like the best value. This also puts pressure on suppliers to reduce costs etc etc.
Its all very well having staple foodstuffs available cheaply and a minimum wage, problem is providing somewhere to actually cook anything for a lot of people, affording rent or a mortgage on min wage is pretty difficult.
And it ever seems that cheap doign the weekly shop, especially if my wife goes and buys some top of the range organic cous cous and fish salad pots or some b
ks, like 6 quid for four mouthfulls of food. Rice is cheap as you mention, but not if you buy pre prepared microwave rice in pots its bloody not !
And it ever seems that cheap doign the weekly shop, especially if my wife goes and buys some top of the range organic cous cous and fish salad pots or some b
ks, like 6 quid for four mouthfulls of food. Rice is cheap as you mention, but not if you buy pre prepared microwave rice in pots its bloody not !Cheap food prices don't help people too thick, too mentally incapable etc of cooking a decent meal.
I suspect in the UK there are very few people without access to a working cooker - even poor benefit types. However many of them are too lazy, too poorly educated, too badly brought, claim to be too busy etc up to have adequate cooking skills to prepare healthy good quality meals for them and their kids.
Hence the obesity rates as cheap oven trash is literally 20 mins to cook unsupervised for the poorest of the poor and takeaway ste is cheap enough for the rest to gorge on.
I think it should be compulsory in schools to learn some basic "home economics" including cooking basic healthy food stuffs. No child should finish school without having been taught to cook the basics. (plenty of other things like budgeting, etc should be taught too).
At least if its a subject in schools, then if the parents are scum class and not bringing up the kids, at least they have the opportunity to learn it else where.
Getting them to turn up at schools and break ingrained habbits formed in child hood of eating trash may be harder to fix though!
I suspect in the UK there are very few people without access to a working cooker - even poor benefit types. However many of them are too lazy, too poorly educated, too badly brought, claim to be too busy etc up to have adequate cooking skills to prepare healthy good quality meals for them and their kids.
Hence the obesity rates as cheap oven trash is literally 20 mins to cook unsupervised for the poorest of the poor and takeaway s
te is cheap enough for the rest to gorge on. I think it should be compulsory in schools to learn some basic "home economics" including cooking basic healthy food stuffs. No child should finish school without having been taught to cook the basics. (plenty of other things like budgeting, etc should be taught too).
At least if its a subject in schools, then if the parents are scum class and not bringing up the kids, at least they have the opportunity to learn it else where.
Getting them to turn up at schools and break ingrained habbits formed in child hood of eating trash may be harder to fix though!
Psycho Warren said:
I think it should be compulsory in schools to learn some basic "home economics" including cooking basic healthy food stuffs.
I think it is? Found this list of statutory requirements for 11-14 year olds in the national curriculum:Develop practical skills in the safe, hygienic, healthy and creative use of foods to plan, prepare, cook and serve a range of meals,
Develop the practical skills in the safe use of a range of utensils and appliances in the preparation, cooking and serving of a variety of dishes.
Investigate the impact of storage, preparation and cooking on food.
Explore ways to achieve a healthy diet,
Edited by QuartzDad on Wednesday 9th December 15:44
Anecdotal but I didn't realise how good UK grocery options were until I moved to Canada. The lack of an Aldi or Lidl type business and import rules/duties here mean my food shopping is now something that I have to consider heavily in my budget. As a single person, I never spent more than £50 a week on food in the UK, shopping at a combo of Waitrose, Aldi, Lidl and Marks and Spencer, I never kept a proper track, but most weeks you are probably taking 30 quid. I spend an absolute minimum of $100 a week now, which is £60. I have a partner now, so some extra expenses, but some weeks we can go through $250 of groceries.
320d is all you need said:
In India, can't you feed a family of 10 for the equivalent of about £2?
Want a fresh made burger from a street stand?
20 pence.
Etc etc.
Not many burgers for sale in India and most street food stalls sell Indian rather than Western food anyway.Want a fresh made burger from a street stand?
20 pence.
Etc etc.
Maccy Ds and KFC are more like £3-4 for an equivalent meal to the UK. Coffee from a roadside stall is 15p, but that goes up to around £1.50 for one from a Café Coffee Day.
I don't see where the snobbery has come in this thread either?
QuartzDad said:
I think it is? Found this list of statutory requirements for 11-14 year olds in the national curriculum:
Must have changed a lot since I last had anything to do with school education in 2012. Edited by QuartzDad on Wednesday 9th December 15:44
alorotom said:
miken2k8 said:
The snobbishness in this thread is gold. Bravo pistonheads
I don’t think it is tbh.The majority of the food we eat at home is fresh home cooked. We've done it when we've been struggling financially, and when we've been doing well. We do it because it's cheaper tastier and healthier. There are literally no downsides to it other than convenience. Even then it's arguable as a lot of what we cook is done in a slow cooker. 1 pot and switch on, it's that simple.
98elise said:
The majority of the food we eat at home is fresh home cooked. We've done it when we've been struggling financially, and when we've been doing well. We do it because it's cheaper tastier and healthier. There are literally no downsides to it other than convenience. Even then it's arguable as a lot of what we cook is done in a slow cooker. 1 pot and switch on, it's that simple.
Time is money. The food itself might be cheaper but when you're working 2 jobs or long hours then coming home to look after a family, the time it takes to cook as cheaply as possible eats into your earning capacity.Totally agree it can be ridiculously cheap. A whole chicken is like £3 now - ok don’t ask what kid of life it’s had and it still needs cooking but that will feed a family of 4 for a fiver with plenty of veg, stuffing etc... and that’s a decent meal go cheaper - veg curry or spag Bol and it’s even cheaper.
bagusbagus said:
Even someone not that well off having to work for the minimum wage still would only need to work
~3minutes to afford 1kilo of rice (42p).
~5minutes to afford a decent loaf of bread (75p)
~5minutes to afford 1kilo of any prepered chopped frozen vegetables (75p)
~5minutes to afford a kilo of bananas shipped to you from thousands of miles away (70p)
~3minutes to afford 1kilo of potatoes/carrots (45p)
While someone in the ultra-poor countries on the minimum wage would often have to work 1/3 of a day to afford the same 1kg of rice.
I'm yet to see a cheaper country than UK for basic produce/goods.
Try using realistic prices.~3minutes to afford 1kilo of rice (42p).
~5minutes to afford a decent loaf of bread (75p)
~5minutes to afford 1kilo of any prepered chopped frozen vegetables (75p)
~5minutes to afford a kilo of bananas shipped to you from thousands of miles away (70p)
~3minutes to afford 1kilo of potatoes/carrots (45p)
While someone in the ultra-poor countries on the minimum wage would often have to work 1/3 of a day to afford the same 1kg of rice.
I'm yet to see a cheaper country than UK for basic produce/goods.
A decent loaf of bread - 75p? Where?
Mobile Chicane said:
Try using realistic prices.
A decent loaf of bread - 75p? Where?
Aldi - it's hard to spend over a quid on bread: https://www.aldi.co.uk/c/groceries/bakery/breadA decent loaf of bread - 75p? Where?
Sure, if your definition of 'decent' is some artisan sourdough you're not going to find it for 70p, but plenty of decent bread available around that price point.
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