Is it possible to get hold of a leasehold document?
Is it possible to get hold of a leasehold document?
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Funk

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27,652 posts

238 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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I'm struggling a little with getting answers from Google on this - is it possible to get hold of lease/freehold agreements for neighbouring properties from somewhere..?

Long story short we have an issue with a block of flats next door and never-ending rotation of for sale/let signs adjacent to us. Our lease specifically prohibits us putting them up yet we have to live with them within a few feet of our boundary (and out of sight of the flats they're actually advertising for). I'd like to see if their lease agreements have similar stipulations to ours.

ten200

215 posts

121 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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You should be able to download them from the Land Registry's website, assuming that the properties have been sold since the records started being scanned. I think it costs about £3 per document, so make sure you get the lease document and not the title deeds.

AJL308

6,390 posts

185 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Even if they do have similar restrictions then actually getting them enforced might be essentially impossible or, at best, extremely expensive. I don't see how you even could unless you had some interest in the properties concerned.

megaphone

11,653 posts

280 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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I had a similar issue at some flats where I lived, they used to put up the signs at the front, directly in front of my flat.

The signs would go missing at night, ended up in the bin store, I counted over 30 signs, in the end there was no room for the bins.

Funk

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27,652 posts

238 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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megaphone said:
I had a similar issue at some flats where I lived, they used to put up the signs at the front, directly in front of my flat.

The signs would go missing at night, ended up in the bin store, I counted over 30 signs, in the end there was no room for the bins.
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Chris32345

2,141 posts

91 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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What sort of leasehold prevents you putting up for sale signs?
It it some sort of snobby area?

nikaiyo2

5,953 posts

224 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Chris32345 said:
What sort of leasehold prevents you putting up for sale signs?
It it some sort of snobby area?
Almost all leases in larger flat developments prohibit for sale signs. So there are potentially not a myriad of signs outside.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Might be worth having a word with the local council planning department to see if they have any rules.

SmoothCriminal

5,939 posts

228 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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Half the time I dont even think they're marketing a flat they just want their stty signs up for months and months or years.

roadsmash

2,667 posts

99 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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Chris32345 said:
What sort of leasehold prevents you putting up for sale signs?
It it some sort of snobby area?
It is very common and happens in leaseholds up and down the country.

matjk

1,112 posts

169 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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I do wonder why estate agents bother putting them up still since the introduction of Rightmove , I suspect they have almost zero effect but the customer can see that they are at least doing something for their £4000

Pro Bono

685 posts

106 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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You can obtain copies of the leases from the Land Registry website - https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-lan... There's no point obtaining more than one, as they'll almost certainly all be the same.

You need to look at the section in the lease entitled `Tenants' Covenants'. There may be two sets - one set with the landlord and one with the management company.

But even if there is a covenant prohibiting the display of agents' signs you have no legal rights to enforce it. All you could do is to contact the landlord / manco and ask them to enforce the covenant.

Manco's are often comprised of the individual leaseholders, so you're unlikely to get anywhere with them. and freeholders usually can't be bothered to enforce covenants unless they see an opportunity to extract payment, so even if they could stop it they'd probably choose to waive the covenant in return for a release fee.


Ussrcossack

1,107 posts

71 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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megaphone said:
I had a similar issue at some flats where I lived, they used to put up the signs at the front, directly in front of my flat.

The signs would go missing at night, ended up in the bin store, I counted over 30 signs, in the end there was no room for the bins.
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