Defending a point of principle.
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I've been wronged by someone via Ebay to the tune of about £150. Ebay did not follow their own policy.
On the one hand, life is too short, it's really not worth the bother.
On the other hand, there is a point of principle at stake. If I don't pursue this matter to the bitter end those dishonest types and lazy corporations will continue to act in such ways.
In some ways I see pursuing the matter as an act of public service.
I find myself musing on whether I should take a stand or not.
The point of principle is far more important than the £150, but I'm not sure I CBA. I don't see much point in a headstone that says 'Here lies Huntsman, he took a stand'
On the one hand, life is too short, it's really not worth the bother.
On the other hand, there is a point of principle at stake. If I don't pursue this matter to the bitter end those dishonest types and lazy corporations will continue to act in such ways.
In some ways I see pursuing the matter as an act of public service.
I find myself musing on whether I should take a stand or not.
The point of principle is far more important than the £150, but I'm not sure I CBA. I don't see much point in a headstone that says 'Here lies Huntsman, he took a stand'
Durzel said:
You can, but it’s not free either in monetary or time terms.
£25 to file the claim online (up to £300 claimed).
Question is - who would the OP be claiming against? The other person? eBay?
If he was truly a man of principle, he would sue both the other person AND EBay as 1st and 2nd Defendants.£25 to file the claim online (up to £300 claimed).
Question is - who would the OP be claiming against? The other person? eBay?
I paid good money to consult with a well-recommended brief over the possibilities of suing my employer. I had, according to him, as good a case as he'd seen, with failures of care galore, more than I thought.
He said that nothing in law is guaranteed. I could win, I could lose, both sides could win, and various combinations.
He asked me how much compensation I wanted. I told him I didn't care, and that it was a matter of principle. I just wanted my costs covered. The word principle changed the tone of the meeting.
His advice was to forget it and move on. He said that my employer's brief would delay matters, hang the case out over years, I'd get wound up, I'd not get on with my life and I might lose, despite the strength of the case.
He also said that if I won, it would not be the great triumph I anticipated. I forget the phrase he used, but ashes in the mouth would cover it. It was a pricey hour, 50 mins actually, but worth the money.
I chose to follow his advice. I put it behind me. I was surprised how easy it was to do once I put my mind to it. I can write about it without any rancor or other emotion, other than a sadness that the brief died a few months later. Lovely bloke.
He said that nothing in law is guaranteed. I could win, I could lose, both sides could win, and various combinations.
He asked me how much compensation I wanted. I told him I didn't care, and that it was a matter of principle. I just wanted my costs covered. The word principle changed the tone of the meeting.
His advice was to forget it and move on. He said that my employer's brief would delay matters, hang the case out over years, I'd get wound up, I'd not get on with my life and I might lose, despite the strength of the case.
He also said that if I won, it would not be the great triumph I anticipated. I forget the phrase he used, but ashes in the mouth would cover it. It was a pricey hour, 50 mins actually, but worth the money.
I chose to follow his advice. I put it behind me. I was surprised how easy it was to do once I put my mind to it. I can write about it without any rancor or other emotion, other than a sadness that the brief died a few months later. Lovely bloke.
Huntsman said:
I've been wronged by someone via Ebay to the tune of about £150. Ebay did not follow their own policy.
On the one hand, life is too short, it's really not worth the bother.
On the other hand, there is a point of principle at stake. If I don't pursue this matter to the bitter end those dishonest types and lazy corporations will continue to act in such ways.
In some ways I see pursuing the matter as an act of public service.
I find myself musing on whether I should take a stand or not.
The point of principle is far more important than the £150, but I'm not sure I CBA. I don't see much point in a headstone that says 'Here lies Huntsman, he took a stand'
Once you get dragged into the legal wheels of process costs will rise and you'll spend hours dealing with it. Your quality of life will be consumed. It's really not worth it for £150 imo. Something quick would be more rewarding and allow you to move on.On the one hand, life is too short, it's really not worth the bother.
On the other hand, there is a point of principle at stake. If I don't pursue this matter to the bitter end those dishonest types and lazy corporations will continue to act in such ways.
In some ways I see pursuing the matter as an act of public service.
I find myself musing on whether I should take a stand or not.
The point of principle is far more important than the £150, but I'm not sure I CBA. I don't see much point in a headstone that says 'Here lies Huntsman, he took a stand'
Durzel said:
You can, but it’s not free either in monetary or time terms.
£25 to file the claim online (up to £300 claimed).
Question is - who would the OP be claiming against? The other person? eBay?
For £25 and an hour on the internet I'd probably push it.£25 to file the claim online (up to £300 claimed).
Question is - who would the OP be claiming against? The other person? eBay?
Assuming it's a genuine case - you have sold something working, and purchaser claiming it's not as described / broken / not turned up.
Problem is it could go either way.
I hate Ebay, because it seems so easy to scam genuine buyers by saying "you never received the Goods".
On the odd occasion I usually mark a small emblem or scratch into a product in a non-visible area and photograph this clearly, and then photograph it multiple times throughout the packing process.
If it's a mobile phone you mark the IMEI and serial number of the phone, usually I will do a video of the phone working and condition, then showing the IMEI and the serial number etc and then film it being wrapped up.
It is only ever shipped fully insured with a trust worthy courier (IE DX24, DHL, DPD, UPS, Parcelforce etc)
Granted not every courier is perfect, but I do not ever ship with Hermes.
I've only ever had one issue which was when a seller whom I sold my old iPhone to said it was damaged (screen and case broken).
Of course he'd bought my phone, opened a claim and returned his phone.
With the IMEI and serial numbers Ebay actually found in my favour (I was a bit concerned about it going the other way).
The case was closed. and I had his broken phone, which I sold for £80.
Last thing I sold on Ebay was a steering wheel, and to be fair, compared to Facebook it was a breeze. I had listed it at £200 on Facebook, was getting lots of daft offers, £100, etc etc.
Put it up for £230 ono on Ebay and it sold within 2 hours for full asking price.
I've been pondering this a little more.
Aside from the specifics of the case, as pointed out above, PH'ers only get to see one side of the story, I have decided that I will make a claim jointly against ebay and the buyer through money claim online.
The principle of the point is important enough to me that I'll defend it tooth an nail, I may not win, but at least I''ll have had a go.
Life's too short for all this, but its also too short to let people walk all over you and get away with it, I concluded the later more important.
Aside from the specifics of the case, as pointed out above, PH'ers only get to see one side of the story, I have decided that I will make a claim jointly against ebay and the buyer through money claim online.
The principle of the point is important enough to me that I'll defend it tooth an nail, I may not win, but at least I''ll have had a go.
Life's too short for all this, but its also too short to let people walk all over you and get away with it, I concluded the later more important.
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