Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police has resigned
Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police has resigned
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Louis Balfour

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28,176 posts

246 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Apparently.




Edited by Louis Balfour on Friday 18th December 16:22

Red 4

10,744 posts

211 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Apparently ? According to who ?

The last I heard he was on sick leave - a problem with his ears apparently.

Perhaps someone should email him with his P45.

Louis Balfour

Original Poster:

28,176 posts

246 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Red 4 said:
Apparently ? According to who ?

The last I heard he was on sick leave - a problem with his ears apparently.

Perhaps someone should email him with his P45.
Mr Burnham.

Red 4

10,744 posts

211 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
Red 4 said:
Apparently ? According to who ?

The last I heard he was on sick leave - a problem with his ears apparently.

Perhaps someone should email him with his P45.
Mr Burnham.
OK. Any reasons given ? Is Ian Pilling filling in as Chief ?

silentbrown

10,516 posts

140 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...

ACC Ian Pilling will step up as interim chief constable, Mr Burnham says. He says he knows how hard officers and staff of GMP have worked and “we appreciate it so much”. Says he has acted quickly to take steps to address the problems.

Ganglandboss

8,501 posts

227 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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My MP wrote an open letter to him recently. During the first lockdown, some two bit DJ led a convoy of chavved-up sh*t-boxes from Telford to Denton. They caused a roadblock on the M6 en route, and then proceded to tear-arse up residential streets. Anderw Gwynne (who I usually think is a bit of a cock) was rightly p*ssed off that GMP did nothing to stop them, and handed out no fixed penalties for traffic offences, antisocial behaviour, or breach of COVID rules. He sighned off with:

"“GMP must now be in line for the most-inept police force in the country and the people of Denton would be better paying a precept to the Keystone Cops.”

Earthdweller

18,018 posts

150 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Red 4 said:
OK. Any reasons given ? Is Ian Pilling filling in as Chief ?
Sadly, and hopefully not permanently

There’s only one member of the Command team I have any respect for, or faith in and it’s not Pilling

A complete clear out is needed

Red 4

10,744 posts

211 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Earthdweller said:
Red 4 said:
OK. Any reasons given ? Is Ian Pilling filling in as Chief ?
Sadly, and hopefully not permanently

There’s only one member of the Command team I have any respect for, or faith in and it’s not Pilling

A complete clear out is needed
Yes, you could be right.

The same could probably be said of most forces though wink

I know Ian from his pre-GMP days. Always found him OK TBH.

Tuna

19,930 posts

308 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Calls for Burnham to resign as well, after 80,000 crimes went unreported in just one year.

Where are all the usual moral crusaders, going on about who is to blame, and who is responsible in this?

Bathroom_Security

3,793 posts

141 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Ganglandboss said:
My MP wrote an open letter to him recently. During the first lockdown, some two bit DJ led a convoy of chavved-up sh*t-boxes from Telford to Denton. They caused a roadblock on the M6 en route, and then proceded to tear-arse up residential streets. Anderw Gwynne (who I usually think is a bit of a cock) was rightly p*ssed off that GMP did nothing to stop them, and handed out no fixed penalties for traffic offences, antisocial behaviour, or breach of COVID rules. He sighned off with:

"“GMP must now be in line for the most-inept police force in the country and the people of Denton would be better paying a precept to the Keystone Cops.”
Who?

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

68 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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I anticipate hearing shortly about how wonderfully they perform their role.

I'm curious to see how they can have deteriorated futher from being 'inadequate', though.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

68 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Bathroom_Security said:
Who?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Gwynne

Bathroom_Security

3,793 posts

141 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Biggy Stardust said:
No, the DJ

Octoposse

2,375 posts

209 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Tuna said:
Calls for Burnham to resign as well, after 80,000 crimes went unreported in just one year.
Not unreported - unrecorded.

There's been a blank line and a footnote for GMP in the ONS data set for England and Wales for a few years now. Every other force has managed to do it (although you do see jumps as individual force's processes get a kick up the arse).

red_slr

20,087 posts

213 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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I have had cause to ring GMP 5 times this year.

4 times on switchboard and all 4 times it rang out for 30 to 40 mins. Varying times of the day. Disgraceful. In the end it was quicker to email the local pcso.

1 time on 999 to report a crime in progress (robbery) and after 15 mins and the perpetrators being long gone I hung up. No call back, nothing.

The business next door to mine had a theft of 40k and it took them a week to send someone out.

I have family and friends in the force and I am embarrassed for them.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

68 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Bathroom_Security said:
Biggy Stardust said:
No, the DJ
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/denton-shutdown-car-meet-who-18628842

Bathroom_Security

3,793 posts

141 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Biggy Stardust said:
Bathroom_Security said:
Biggy Stardust said:
No, the DJ
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/denton-shutdown-car-meet-who-18628842
Thanks, I could have called that tbf


Louis Balfour

Original Poster:

28,176 posts

246 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Red 4 said:
Yes, you could be right.

The same could probably be said of most forces though
Having had to deal with another force and Chief this year I suspect you’re correct.

It has been an eye opener the impunity with which some characters act and the degree of defensiveness and cover up is incredible. As Andy Burnham was describing the problem today it all sounded very familiar.

We are in the 21st century, the police need to be accountable and not behave like the masons.




Red 4

10,744 posts

211 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Tuna said:
Calls for Burnham to resign as well, after 80,000 crimes went unreported in just one year.

Where are all the usual moral crusaders, going on about who is to blame, and who is responsible in this?
Andy Burnham is responsible for failing to record crimes ?

Burnham, as Mayor, is also the PCC but why do you think he should resign ?

Typical Tory fanboy nonsense from you, as usual.

Red 4

10,744 posts

211 months

Friday 18th December 2020
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Louis Balfour said:
Red 4 said:
Yes, you could be right.

The same could probably be said of most forces though
Having had to deal with another force and Chief this year I suspect you’re correct.

It has been an eye opener the impunity with which some characters act and the degree of defensiveness and cover up is incredible. As Andy Burnham was describing the problem today it all sounded very familiar.

We are in the 21st century, the police need to be accountable and not behave like the masons.
Fair comment but don't confuse "the organisation" and dealing with the bureaucracy and defensiveness with "the police".

The vast majority of the troops want to do the right thing. Higher echelons are more concerned with the image of the force.