Relaxations over Christmas now scrapped.
Discussion
JPJPJP said:
Any signs of traffic building up on the roads leading out of plaguesville tier 4 yet?
I think the closure of non essential retail in tier 4 will tempt a lot of people to travel outside that area. There will be people who still ‘need’ to do Christmas shopping, and it’s getting a bit late to do it online now.
The new variant is a massive unknown ( officially and quite rightly so). They can’t just tell everyone what they really think, because that runs the risk of no take up of the vaccine(s) which may ( but almost certainly won’t ) still be perfectly adequate. This human Coronavirus, seems to be behaving exactly like all previous human Coronaviruses have. We really didn’t need this getting loose in the population, but it’s here now, and I am really glad I’m not the one having to do the chasing. For now, until the robust science has been done, the best option is to bury heads in sand, and hope that this virus actually goes against everything we know about it’s sort / type, and doesn’t swerve the vaccines. Joking aside, I actually hope it does keep responding to what we have.
Terminator X said:
Anyone daft enough to be staying over for 5 days etc needed a Darwin Award imho. We were staying at home anyway so nowt changed for us other than missing Xmas day lunch out but that was a T3 thing.
TX.
It’s not cancelled, just postponed. Unless the new variant is as bad as it looks, then it’s cancelled.TX.
I'm a single person, in Tier 1. No Christmas for me now!
I was having a friend coming to stay for the 5 days, but she's now in Tier 4 (Essex), so that's off (Tier 4 people not allowed to visit anyone outside Tier 4 areas, no overnight stays, Tiers 1, 2 and 3 families not allowed to host anyone from Tier 4).
Can't do what I normally do - visit my sister who's in a Tier 2 area - because one of her kids left home last year and will be going there for Christmas (only 2 households to mix in tier 2 and above, and only for Christmas day).
Same for spending the day with Mum, as she has struck up a friendship with a chap in her retirement complex, and is spending the day with him.
I don't know anybody who doesn't have immediate family visiting for the day.
I was having a friend coming to stay for the 5 days, but she's now in Tier 4 (Essex), so that's off (Tier 4 people not allowed to visit anyone outside Tier 4 areas, no overnight stays, Tiers 1, 2 and 3 families not allowed to host anyone from Tier 4).
Can't do what I normally do - visit my sister who's in a Tier 2 area - because one of her kids left home last year and will be going there for Christmas (only 2 households to mix in tier 2 and above, and only for Christmas day).
Same for spending the day with Mum, as she has struck up a friendship with a chap in her retirement complex, and is spending the day with him.
I don't know anybody who doesn't have immediate family visiting for the day.
Johnson promised a House of Commons vote on new rules, so if he legislates by Ministerial fiat tonight he will face the anger of backbenchers.
Absent new legislation, the "rules" won't be rules. I assume that some new Regulations will be on the website by tomorrow. This is arbitrary and despotic government based on irrational fear.
Absent new legislation, the "rules" won't be rules. I assume that some new Regulations will be on the website by tomorrow. This is arbitrary and despotic government based on irrational fear.
Honestly how do we get out of this mess? The government have backed themselves into a corner and they aren't going to change strategy now, no way! The virus is mutating which is to be expected. The vaccine is only just being rolled out. There may be a mutation in the coming months, hopefully not that might render the vaccine useless. So what happens then! Looking at how the government are running things nothing will be changing in there decision making. So either we accept this is our new way of life for the foreseeable future, with various forms of lockdown or we start getting civil unrest which may change the course that we are on.
Breadvan72 said:
Johnson promised a House of Commons vote on new rules, so if he legislates by Ministerial fiat tonight he will face the anger of backbenchers.
Absent new legislation, the "rules" won't be rules. I assume that some new Regulations will be on the website by tomorrow. This is arbitrary and despotic government based on irrational fear.
BV, am i right in thinking this is technically not legal at this point based on this?Absent new legislation, the "rules" won't be rules. I assume that some new Regulations will be on the website by tomorrow. This is arbitrary and despotic government based on irrational fear.
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