Lambonomics
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JohnnyJones

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1,778 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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Apologies if this has been discussed before.

Can anyone explain the lamb thing? Ie why in New Zealand you can’t buy New Zealand lamb, Wales too, etc etc?

Muzzer79

12,716 posts

211 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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Here’s me thinking this was going to be a thread about inventive finance schemes to enable us to buy a Lamborghini boxedin

PeteinSQ

2,346 posts

234 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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I'm not quite sure I understand what you're writing about. But if this is about why we both export loads of lamb and then import loads I believe that's a result of seasonality and also a lack of a UK market for certain cuts and offal.

http://beefandlambmatters.blogspot.com/2013/07/why...

w1bbles

1,312 posts

160 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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The only lambonomics I know are that if you are mental enough to grow your own on a small scale the cost per kg is off the flipping scale. Ask me how I know. Taste good though...

fiju

704 posts

87 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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w1bbles said:
The only lambonomics I know are that if you are mental enough to grow your own on a small scale the cost per kg is off the flipping scale. Ask me how I know. Taste good though...
Can't be that much to buy a baby sheep? Stick it in a field and watch it grow. It's not like it needs a sky subscription to keep it entertained.

JohnnyJones

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1,778 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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Muzzer79 said:
Here’s me thinking this was going to be a thread about inventive finance schemes to enable us to buy a Lamborghini boxedin
Sorry!

Lamb. In New Zealand you can’t buy New Zealand lamb but here it’s everywhere. There they can buy Aussie or Welsh lamb. In Wales you can find Welsh lamb if you look for it (farm shops) but most is exported. Why is this was the question?

Doofus

33,284 posts

197 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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It's like watches. In order to be "Swiss Made", a watch has to be assembled in Switzerland, even though the bits come from the far east.

New Zealand Lamb is actually parts of Japanese sheep which are assembled in New Zealand.

Likewise Welsh Lamb, but that comes from Shetland, because whilst they like sheep, the Shetlandaise have little interest in lambs, capybaras or elephants.

w1bbles

1,312 posts

160 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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fiju said:
Can't be that much to buy a baby sheep? Stick it in a field and watch it grow. It's not like it needs a sky subscription to keep it entertained.
Yep. You're bang-on. However you need to add the following toys/things to the mix:

Fencing
Livestock trailer
Shed
Hay
Feed
Lick
Watering kit
Pens for shearing and stuff
Drugs/wormer/sheep tools (dagging shears, shears, injection things, ball choppers, blue sprays, fairy dust)
Cost of slaughter and butchering for small batches
The occasional vet bill when a pedigree lamb gets shagged by a fence-jumping tup

Yep.

Vanden Saab

17,404 posts

98 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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JohnnyJones said:
Muzzer79 said:
Here’s me thinking this was going to be a thread about inventive finance schemes to enable us to buy a Lamborghini boxedin
Sorry!

Lamb. In New Zealand you can’t buy New Zealand lamb but here it’s everywhere. There they can buy Aussie or Welsh lamb. In Wales you can find Welsh lamb if you look for it (farm shops) but most is exported. Why is this was the question?
To be lamb it has to be less than 1 year old as after that it is mutton. We are opposed season wise to Aus/NZ therefore our lambs are born in our spring and need to be 'harvested' before spring the following year. OZ/NZ lamb is born in our Autumn and needs to be 'harvested' by our Autumn. It takes time for lamb to be big enough to be 'harvested'
Basically. So there is a relatively small window when the meat is available from each country.


Edited by Vanden Saab on Sunday 20th December 22:43

Getragdogleg

9,903 posts

207 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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fiju said:
Can't be that much to buy a baby sheep? Stick it in a field and watch it grow. It's not like it needs a sky subscription to keep it entertained.
Give it a go.

Seriously though, sheep are possibly only a tiny bit behind horses in terms of illness, problems, wounds and creativity in getting stuck, impaled, lost or stolen.

Add to the mix that they will wander off. I watched some roll over the cattle grid and amble off into a field they were not supposed to be in.

Utter bds to keep.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

183 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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When I lived in a cottage next to a farm.
Farmer rings the door bell at 18:30. Asks if I can give him a hand moving his sheep from one field to another.
No probs I say - put my dinner down - expecting to be microwaving it about 20 minutes later.

7 hours later, I get home. And I'm wrecked - too tired to eat.

Field (a) is nowhere near to Field (b).

The bugger was up 3 hours later in his tractor. Cracking on with the next day's work.
I was toast for the rest of the day.

fiju

704 posts

87 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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Will my back garden do? Fully fenced and has some lawn and plants.
It can use the shed to sleep in if it can find some space. It has lighting and a fridge/freezer should it get hungry in the night.
As there's only one baby sheep, I don't need a trailer. Not that I'll be taking it on shipping trips.
As the sheep will be killed after a year, no need to chop it's balls or give it haircuts or injections. No fear of it being raped in South London unless a lunatic finds its way into my garden.
And lastly, I can butcher it in the garden when the time comes.

I don't see the problem? Hypothetically speaking obvs, I'm not actually going to buy a sheep.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

210 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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Getragdogleg

9,903 posts

207 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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fiju said:
Will my back garden do? Fully fenced and has some lawn and plants.
It can use the shed to sleep in if it can find some space. It has lighting and a fridge/freezer should it get hungry in the night.
As there's only one baby sheep, I don't need a trailer. Not that I'll be taking it on shipping trips.
As the sheep will be killed after a year, no need to chop it's balls or give it haircuts or injections. No fear of it being raped in South London unless a lunatic finds its way into my garden.
And lastly, I can butcher it in the garden when the time comes.

I don't see the problem? Hypothetically speaking obvs, I'm not actually going to buy a sheep.
How big is your garden? It needs to be rather large or the sheep will eat it faster than it grows.

Vets, registration and tagging...



fiju

704 posts

87 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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Not that big lol. It's a baby sheep, how much could it eat?
I can always take it to the park or into the woods for 'walks' every day.
What does it need vets, registration and tagging for?

w1bbles

1,312 posts

160 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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fiju said:
Not that big lol. It's a baby sheep, how much could it eat?
I can always take it to the park or into the woods for 'walks' every day.
What does it need vets, registration and tagging for?
Keep it in the house. They make great pets. And lovers.

klootzak

683 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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JohnnyJones said:
Apologies if this has been discussed before.

Can anyone explain the lamb thing? Ie why in New Zealand you can’t buy New Zealand lamb
Eh?

Of course you can buy NZ lamb in NZ.

The best stuff is exported, for sure, but we keep plenty for ourselves.

k

fiju

704 posts

87 months

Sunday 20th December 2020
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w1bbles said:
Keep it in the house. They make great pets. And lovers.
I refuse to have animals in the house.

w1bbles

1,312 posts

160 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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fiju said:
I refuse to have animals in the house.
For me there’s a point in a thread when you realise that the person responding is either a troll, pissed or bored. It was funny to start with but not so much now.

JohnnyJones

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1,778 posts

202 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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klootzak said:
Eh?

Of course you can buy NZ lamb in NZ.

The best stuff is exported, for sure, but we keep plenty for ourselves.

k
Do you? Where do you live? So you only export surplus?