Is this towing situation legal?
Is this towing situation legal?
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chml

Original Poster:

741 posts

138 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Saw this photo on FB and just wondered whether it’s legal to tow a Defender with a Cayenne? No horse in this race at all, just something I’m intrigued by.


SiH

1,858 posts

276 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Only if it's a breaked trailer. Otherwise, not a chance.

Jakg

4,040 posts

197 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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A Cayenne can tow 3.5 ton like most 4x4s. A Defender is ~2.2 ton, and the trailer probably under 0.5 ton.
It'd be much dodgier if the Defender was on the back of a 3.5 ton Beavertail, but would probably "look" more normal.

The drivers license might be another issue, and of course if they are delivering for someone else it gets a lot messier.

normalbloke

8,862 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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SiH said:
Only if it's a breaked trailer. Otherwise, not a chance.
Brakes would be even better still.

chml

Original Poster:

741 posts

138 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Thanks all, just looked strange to my untrained eye. The guy is running a vehicle transport company using the Cayenne so I'm assuming the licence and weight restrictions are all above board thumbup

Rozzers

3,056 posts

104 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Thats a 110 I think? - so about 2300kg, those trailers will add 700kg, so it would need to be a braked trailer. If its a commercial operation I would expect that he knows what he is doing.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Just checked my logbook and it states 4000kg braked for my cayenne of the same era. Max train weight and tachographs may come into play though.

Rushjob

2,302 posts

287 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Hire or reward needs a tachograph, a mate has one fitted in a Disco 4 pulling a Brian James triaxle trailer for car deliveries

OverSteery

3,794 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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CDB1983 said:
Just checked my logbook and it states 4000kg braked for my cayenne of the same era. Max train weight and tachographs may come into play though.
Hmm, interesting, I had thought 3500kg was the max for road cars?

a bit of browsing the gov web site and I'm no clearer.. I've found:

- to tow over 3500kg You have to pass the car and trailer driving test

but

- to take your trailer test, your car MUST have 4 wheels and a maximum authorised mass (MAM) of no more than 3,500kg (so not the Cayenne then)

confused

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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My mistake you’re absolutely right. Was looking at the wrong bit.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2020
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Which is however confusing as G is the weight of the car and the 6750kg is the maximum train weight.

Strange choice of vehicle to be using to deliver vehicles with though. Consumables are eye watering