Foreign truckers kicking off in Kent.
Discussion
So things are starting to get a bit heated down in Dover, the truckers are being treated shamefully by all sides.
They are desperate to get out of the country and I’d suggest they will be far less desperate to repeat this with future deliveries.
How long before they start saying they aren’t coming back to the UK with future cargos?
Truckers have worked throughout lockdown and have kept things moving. A general strike by drivers from the continent at how they are being totally feked around by the EU and by the local authorities here must be on the cards.
All we need is a delivery chain breakdown in January.
Most foreign truckers are paid by distance covered, not time. So they will be losing money sat around in Manston and I just can’t se them standing for it.
It’s a tinder box right now.
They are desperate to get out of the country and I’d suggest they will be far less desperate to repeat this with future deliveries.
How long before they start saying they aren’t coming back to the UK with future cargos?
Truckers have worked throughout lockdown and have kept things moving. A general strike by drivers from the continent at how they are being totally feked around by the EU and by the local authorities here must be on the cards.
All we need is a delivery chain breakdown in January.
Most foreign truckers are paid by distance covered, not time. So they will be losing money sat around in Manston and I just can’t se them standing for it.
It’s a tinder box right now.
AJL308 said:
We are, one hopes, pointing out that this is because of actions taken by the French, in part against their own citizens, rather than the UK.
Or may be just pointing it out because it affects the UK and the availability of certain foodstuffs?Or just may be, you want to turn it in to a rant against Johnny Foreigner? May be include WW2 as well?
It's criminal how lorry drivers are treated in general. They are the backbone to modern day consumerism at the moment. Imagine all the Chinese junk you couldn't get next day from amazon if it wasn't for constant HGV deliveries.
Imagine an office tart being told they had to eat, piss and s
t in a cramped cab for 5 days. They'd be having a panic attack.
Imagine an office tart being told they had to eat, piss and s
t in a cramped cab for 5 days. They'd be having a panic attack. TTmonkey said:
So things are starting to get a bit heated down in Dover, the truckers are being treated shamefully by all sides.
They are desperate to get out of the country and I’d suggest they will be far less desperate to repeat this with future deliveries.
How long before they start saying they aren’t coming back to the UK with future cargos?
Truckers have worked throughout lockdown and have kept things moving. A general strike by drivers from the continent at how they are being totally feked around by the EU and by the local authorities here must be on the cards.
All we need is a delivery chain breakdown in January.
Most foreign truckers are paid by distance covered, not time. So they will be losing money sat around in Manston and I just can’t se them standing for it.
It’s a tinder box right now.
Ironically, by p@ssing about closing the border and causing chaos the French have increased the chances of the truckers being infected massively.They are desperate to get out of the country and I’d suggest they will be far less desperate to repeat this with future deliveries.
How long before they start saying they aren’t coming back to the UK with future cargos?
Truckers have worked throughout lockdown and have kept things moving. A general strike by drivers from the continent at how they are being totally feked around by the EU and by the local authorities here must be on the cards.
All we need is a delivery chain breakdown in January.
Most foreign truckers are paid by distance covered, not time. So they will be losing money sat around in Manston and I just can’t se them standing for it.
It’s a tinder box right now.
Most of them have minimal outside interactions normally and are self contained.
Feel sorry for all involved including the police.
rjfp1962 said:
It would have been safer to leave the border open and they all go through as normal.
By stopping them and letting them all congregate around each other is a far bigger risk to spreading Covid..
Exactly this.By stopping them and letting them all congregate around each other is a far bigger risk to spreading Covid..
And now thy're interacting with the Police as well.
And the different tiers???
People from tier 4 are travelling out of their area to do their Xmas shopping. It's just spreading it further.
hepy said:
Or may be just pointing it out because it affects the UK and the availability of certain foodstuffs?
Or just may be, you want to turn it in to a rant against Johnny Foreigner? May be include WW2 as well?
But it’s not the UK who’ve shut the border. Why are some people determined to try to blame the UK even when we’re discussing unilateral action by our neighbours?Or just may be, you want to turn it in to a rant against Johnny Foreigner? May be include WW2 as well?
Difficult issue. Not sure I can blame other countries from temporarily closing their borders when the U.K. government describes a mutant strain of the virus being out of control.
We adopted similar measures when dealing with the mink issues in Denmark.
What I find confusing is all the talk at the press conference on Monday about how we’d planned for this and how quickly we were able to turn a motorway and airport into a car park. If we had contingency plans in place, why has a charity that normally supports natural disasters and conflict zones in the 3rd world had to step in and provide food and water? Also, if the planning included 100s of 1000s lorries parked up, why no provision for sanitation.
The administration who were full of self congratulation on Monday have, arguable, not even done the bare minimum of planning. Incompetence as usual.
We adopted similar measures when dealing with the mink issues in Denmark.
What I find confusing is all the talk at the press conference on Monday about how we’d planned for this and how quickly we were able to turn a motorway and airport into a car park. If we had contingency plans in place, why has a charity that normally supports natural disasters and conflict zones in the 3rd world had to step in and provide food and water? Also, if the planning included 100s of 1000s lorries parked up, why no provision for sanitation.
The administration who were full of self congratulation on Monday have, arguable, not even done the bare minimum of planning. Incompetence as usual.
Kent Border Kenny said:
hepy said:
Or may be just pointing it out because it affects the UK and the availability of certain foodstuffs?
Or just may be, you want to turn it in to a rant against Johnny Foreigner? May be include WW2 as well?
But it’s not the UK who’ve shut the border. Why are some people determined to try to blame the UK even when we’re discussing unilateral action by our neighbours?Or just may be, you want to turn it in to a rant against Johnny Foreigner? May be include WW2 as well?
1. Create massive hysteria
2. Talk about all your amazing planning when in fact you’ve planned nothing
France clearly to blame as well, but we did the same when Denmark announced their Mink related covid issues. So hardly surprising that other countries do the same. Entirely foreseeable.
Kent Border Kenny said:
hepy said:
Or may be just pointing it out because it affects the UK and the availability of certain foodstuffs?
Or just may be, you want to turn it in to a rant against Johnny Foreigner? May be include WW2 as well?
But it’s not the UK who’ve shut the border. Why are some people determined to try to blame the UK even when we’re discussing unilateral action by our neighbours?Or just may be, you want to turn it in to a rant against Johnny Foreigner? May be include WW2 as well?
It doesn't matter that it's not a Brexit problem - it looks like a Brexit problem.
Kent Border Kenny said:
But it’s not the UK who’ve shut the border. Why are some people determined to try to blame the UK even when we’re discussing unilateral action by our neighbours?
Because it was in response to that incompetent bed wetter Hancock, they then lied saying they knew it would be the response and that they were fully prepared, fully prepared to watch utter chaos unfold more like. Boris rushes to the press room to waffle for 20 minutes failing to answer anyone's questions, the Home sec sat there on TV proudly announcing she didn't have a clue but she was sure Shapps would know something about "testin" and "plannin" as she seems to have forgotten the g on any word ending in "ing". Lying and incompetent fools it's a great combination.
SpeckledJim said:
It's France's fault, but we should have been there straight away with an Army field kitchen, toilet and shower block and all the rest, for both sensible humanitarian reasons, and also to try to manage the global PR of how this looks with Brexit imminent.
They should have mobilised services the minute Hancock stated that the 'mutant virus was out of control', live on national TV. The writing was on the wall from that point.
Kent Border Kenny said:
hepy said:
Or may be just pointing it out because it affects the UK and the availability of certain foodstuffs?
Or just may be, you want to turn it in to a rant against Johnny Foreigner? May be include WW2 as well?
But it’s not the UK who’ve shut the border. Why are some people determined to try to blame the UK even when we’re discussing unilateral action by our neighbours?Or just may be, you want to turn it in to a rant against Johnny Foreigner? May be include WW2 as well?
And we've known there was going to be Brexit-related border chaos about now for (two? three?) years now, but still haven't managed to prepare for it with toilets, showers, canteens, electric hook-ups, etc.
dudleybloke said:
Could be good for UK transport firms if they step in to fill the gap.
Test before you leave adds fairly significant risk to small hauliers in booking cross channel jobs, if anything I'd say this hurts UK transport firms more than EU based ones. The EU firm drivers are not likely spend much time outside of their cabs when in the UK, just fresh food, drink, sanitation and maybe fuel are the only reasons a EU driver needs to leave their cab. So with fairly limited mitigations a EU driver that enters the UK knowing they are CV19 clear is unlikely to pick it up.
The UK based driver has to consider the possibly of picking it up at home, at the shops etc when they are not on a turn. Their boss / company then has to factor in the number CV19 positive drivers or potentially positive drivers when accepting work. Remember a driver testing CV19 positive means they need to isolate for 10 days so are taken out the driving pool for domestic turns as well.
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