Ex prime ministers STFU
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Dixy

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3,499 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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All ex PMs should know the job is hard enough without those that have already failed at it putting their unwanted opinion in.
Not quite as stupid as Trump injecting bleach but FFS.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55410349

Sophisticated Sarah

15,078 posts

193 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Just when you start forgetting about the he shows up for Christmas. He’s like a fking sprout irked

ralphrj

3,962 posts

215 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Dixy said:
All ex PMs should know the job is hard enough without those that have already failed at it putting their unwanted opinion in.
Not quite as stupid as Trump injecting bleach but FFS.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55410349
It did strike me as a strange comment to make, if the Chief Medical Officer agreed that it would be better to give a larger number of people a single dose instead of half as many people a double dose then we would already be doing it. Clearly they don't think that is the best way forward.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

147 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Surprised he has time for this. Thought he’d be too busy advising Macron and co.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/10/to...

Andy 308GTB

3,020 posts

245 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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He knows best.
He knew that remaining in the EU was best and now he knows how best to vaccinate the country.
If anything is going to unite this country it will be TB, such is the universal desire for him to leave us in peace.


SpeckledJim

32,693 posts

277 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Andy 308GTB said:
He knows best.
He knew that remaining in the EU was best and now he knows how best to vaccinate the country.
If anything is going to unite this country it will be TB, such is the universal desire for him to leave us in peace.
Tony Blair and Guy Verhofstadt to host an alternative Christmas message, and drive Brexit through on a united wave of popular support.

Vanden Saab

17,395 posts

98 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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It is idiots like this who have made antibiotics useless as they only take half the course. The bloke is a grade A muppet and now people will think it is safe to only have half the vaccination.

don'tbesilly

15,362 posts

187 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
Andy 308GTB said:
He knows best.
He knew that remaining in the EU was best and now he knows how best to vaccinate the country.
If anything is going to unite this country it will be TB, such is the universal desire for him to leave us in peace.
Tony Blair and Guy Verhofstadt to host an alternative Christmas message, and drive Brexit through on a united wave of popular support.
laugh



crankedup

25,764 posts

267 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
Andy 308GTB said:
He knows best.
He knew that remaining in the EU was best and now he knows how best to vaccinate the country.
If anything is going to unite this country it will be TB, such is the universal desire for him to leave us in peace.
Tony Blair and Guy Verhofstadt to host an alternative Christmas message, and drive Brexit through on a united wave of popular support.
Good shot Sir! Two of the most divisive politicians on the planet (possibly).

SpeckledJim

32,693 posts

277 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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crankedup said:
SpeckledJim said:
Andy 308GTB said:
He knows best.
He knew that remaining in the EU was best and now he knows how best to vaccinate the country.
If anything is going to unite this country it will be TB, such is the universal desire for him to leave us in peace.
Tony Blair and Guy Verhofstadt to host an alternative Christmas message, and drive Brexit through on a united wave of popular support.
Good shot Sir! Two of the most divisive politicians on the planet (possibly).
Not divisive, voter! Unifying!

gregs656

12,133 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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91% effective after the first dose, 95% after the second.

91% of a larger population body sounds pretty good.


motco

17,394 posts

270 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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gregs656 said:
91% effective after the first dose, 95% after the second.

91% of a larger population body sounds pretty good.
Unless it has been clinically trialled as one dose you cannot know the percentage of efficacy. If it had been clinically trialled as one dose it would have been licensed for one dose and it hasn't therefore it's a daft idea from an ignoramus.

biggbn

30,520 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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gregs656 said:
91% effective after the first dose, 95% after the second.

91% of a larger population body sounds pretty good.
Thought it was 52% effective after first, 91% after second, 95% a week or so later? For Pfizer

SpeckledJim

32,693 posts

277 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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motco said:
gregs656 said:
91% effective after the first dose, 95% after the second.

91% of a larger population body sounds pretty good.
Unless it has been clinically trialled as one dose you cannot know the percentage of efficacy. If it had been clinically trialled as one dose it would have been licensed for one dose and it hasn't therefore it's a daft idea from an ignoramus.
Yeah? Well if the license doesn't say what Tony needs it to say, maybe Tony can 'sex-up' the license.

Tony has ways.

warch

2,941 posts

178 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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Bloody hell, I'd have Tony Blair back in a heartbeat over Boris Johnson. Quite frankly I'd rather have Theresa May, or Gordon Brown (great politician, poor PM) for that matter. At least they were all competent.

Boris is going to go down in history as one of the world's most incompetent leaders ever, and easily our worst Prime Minister to date.


Amateurish

8,255 posts

246 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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gregs656 said:
91% effective after the first dose, 95% after the second.

91% of a larger population body sounds pretty good.
Source?

"The Pfizer and BioNTech covid-19 vaccine may provide some early protection, starting 12 days after the first dose, the peer reviewed results of a phase III trial have found.

The study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine,1 found that vaccine efficacy between the first and second doses was 52% (95% credible interval 29.5% to 68.4%), with 39 cases of covid-19 in the vaccine group and 82 cases in the placebo group.

Seven or more days after the second dose, vaccine efficacy then rose to 95% (90.3% to 97.6%), with eight covid-19 cases reported in the vaccine group and 162 cases in the placebo group."

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4826

Dixy

Original Poster:

3,499 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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warch said:
Bloody hell, I'd have Tony Blair back in a heartbeat over Boris Johnson. Quite frankly I'd rather have Theresa May, or Gordon Brown (great politician, poor PM) for that matter. At least they were all competent.

Boris is going to go down in history as one of the world's most incompetent leaders ever, and easily our worst Prime Minister to date.

Fortunately you only have one vote.

dandarez

13,903 posts

307 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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rolleyes

I only said yesterday to my wife:
'Thank god for miniscule mercies this Xmas time, at least Bliar seems to have gone into hibernation.'

Should have known...rolleyes
And he's prattling on about 'health passports' again. Somebody should give him a passport to edge of the galaxy.

Still, hope he gets the vaccine up his arse.

Might stop him talking out of it!

FourWheelDrift

91,927 posts

308 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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So who's paying Blair to say that, he won't be saying it out of the goodness of his own missing heart.

gregs656

12,133 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2020
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motco said:
Unless it has been clinically trialled as one dose you cannot know the percentage of efficacy. If it had been clinically trialled as one dose it would have been licensed for one dose and it hasn't therefore it's a daft idea from an ignoramus.
The argument from Prof Salisbury is the effectiveness of the first dose is underestimated.

I would be surprised if this wasn’t already being investigated, given the logistical pressure on producing and delivering the vaccine.