Tier 4 private car purchase?
Tier 4 private car purchase?
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Cooperracer05

Original Poster:

39 posts

124 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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As of boxing day I'll be in Tier 4.

I need a car after selling mine previously, I order to support a vulnerable relative.

I'm struggling to understand the legislation around tier 4.

Interested to hear your interpretations? Is it allowed?

It would involve a 1h journey there, then 1h back.

I can forego a test drive or request to test drive alone, make payment via BACS and bring my own pen to sign the V5. Won't enter anyone's property etc.

Hard.to.inow if this is 'essential' as per the guidance.wording, or if it would be 'reasonable' as per the actual.law.

Rishi would be happy, I'm keeping the money flowing.

Thoughts wanted...

kiethton

14,628 posts

208 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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You are allowed to travel wherever and go for a drive for fun (even in T4) anyway.

Take the precautions you mention if you deem it prudent and take a “recreational” drive to the road the seller lives on (although the exceptions to essential are non-exhaustive and I’m sure that if it went that far - it wont - that it’d be deemed essential in those circumstances).


raspy

2,714 posts

122 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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No problem according to this page;

"However, legal experts from Lawgistics and CG Professional told Car Dealer Live viewers customers are allowed to move out of a Tier category for a click-and-collect collection or for car servicing reasons.

Conversely, dealers can also leave a Tier 4 area and fulfil a click-and-deliver order to a part of the country in a Tier 1 or 2 classification.

‘The guidance isn’t very clear – again because it was rushed out, something we have said many times this year – but it does say you can come out of Tier 4 area for a reasonable excuse and you can stay local,’ said Lawgistics’ Nona Bowkis.

‘You can leave Tier 4 if it’s reasonably necessary and you can buy for yourself, someone for your household or for a vulnerable person from a Tier 4 business – you can cross the borders.’

Stacey Turner from CG Professional said: ‘If you’ve got your protective measures in place then yes it is permissible, especially for servicing and MOTs – but make sure you’re following the rules regarding social distancing, for instance."

Source: https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/car-dealer...

Blackpuddin

19,377 posts

233 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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I've just bought a car sight unseen and am having it delivered by a dedicated delivery firm, they don't seem to be having any issues.

67Dino

3,644 posts

133 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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I’m collecting a car from Tier 4 in a few days and the garage said they’d had guidance from the government that although the showroom can’t be open, it is ok to have people collect cars as long as socially distanced.

Cooperracer05

Original Poster:

39 posts

124 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Thanks all,

So I’m staying in Tier 4 for the whole purchase, Sussex to Essex.

The purchase is private so I don’t have the usual consumer protections with a dealer, so can’t do unseen, but I have seen the car already (before lockdown) and now need to buy it as I have no other car.

anonymous-user

82 months

Friday 25th December 2020
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Without wishing to start a ‘your attitude will kill 10000 grannies’ I’d just get on and do what’s needed.

Edited for auto speeling error!

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 26th December 15:05

ZX10R NIN

30,484 posts

153 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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As above go & buy, it be as safe as you can then drive it home.

willmagrath

1,373 posts

174 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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kiethton said:
You are allowed to travel wherever and go for a drive for fun (even in T4) anyway.

Take the precautions you mention if you deem it prudent and take a “recreational” drive to the road the seller lives on (although the exceptions to essential are non-exhaustive and I’m sure that if it went that far - it wont - that it’d be deemed essential in those circumstances).
Unfortunately this is not true in Tier 4. You can only leave the house for the essential things and a drive for fun is definitely not included. Sad.

kiethton

14,628 posts

208 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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willmagrath said:
kiethton said:
You are allowed to travel wherever and go for a drive for fun (even in T4) anyway.

Take the precautions you mention if you deem it prudent and take a “recreational” drive to the road the seller lives on (although the exceptions to essential are non-exhaustive and I’m sure that if it went that far - it wont - that it’d be deemed essential in those circumstances).
Unfortunately this is not true in Tier 4. You can only leave the house for the essential things and a drive for fun is definitely not included. Sad.
Sorry but you're wrong - while against guidance the legislation point 2 (d) IIRC permits leaving the house for outdoor recreation - a drive for fun is exactly that.

We've been doing it regularly through each lockdown and this week also.

anonymous-user

82 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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kiethton said:
willmagrath said:
kiethton said:
You are allowed to travel wherever and go for a drive for fun (even in T4) anyway.

Take the precautions you mention if you deem it prudent and take a “recreational” drive to the road the seller lives on (although the exceptions to essential are non-exhaustive and I’m sure that if it went that far - it wont - that it’d be deemed essential in those circumstances).
Unfortunately this is not true in Tier 4. You can only leave the house for the essential things and a drive for fun is definitely not included. Sad.
Sorry but you're wrong - while against guidance the legislation point 2 (d) IIRC permits leaving the house for outdoor recreation - a drive for fun is exactly that.

We've been doing it regularly through each lockdown and this week also.
Correct.

And just for added fun, from BV on the Tier 4 thread ....

Breadvan72 said:
You can go any distance to collect a car. There is no legal impediment to doing that.

TCX

1,976 posts

83 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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willmagrath said:
kiethton said:
You are allowed to travel wherever and go for a drive for fun (even in T4) anyway.

Take the precautions you mention if you deem it prudent and take a “recreational” drive to the road the seller lives on (although the exceptions to essential are non-exhaustive and I’m sure that if it went that far - it wont - that it’d be deemed essential in those circumstances).
Unfortunately this is not true in Tier 4. You can only leave the house for the essential things and a drive for fun is definitely not included. Sad.
Has your front door been welded up,nailed shut?
Is the army Manning an armed road block end of your road
Get out do what you thinks sensible