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Gary C

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15,304 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Well, the wife wanted a gift idea and couldn't think of anything, so she got me the PSVR for the PS4

Eeek

Now I appreciate the PS4 wasn't really fast enough to allow full VR racing and that the resolution isn't exactly ground breaking, but my god, Dirt and GT sport, just WOW

PS5 on the shopping list next year, just hope the producers make more VR driving games for the new console.

I already had a Fanatec elite, this just tops it off, so much better control of lines, hairpins are suddenly not just turn and pray you hit the apex. That German toll road is epic.

I also swear I can feel the seat move and I bet it would be a real disaster to use while pissed smile

C n C

3,915 posts

251 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Gary C said:
Now I appreciate the PS4 wasn't really fast enough to allow full VR racing and that the resolution isn't exactly ground breaking, but my god, Dirt and GT sport, just WOW
As I'm always late into these things, I picked up a used PS4 Pro and PSVR kit a few weeks before Christmas.

I certainly agree that although the resolution isn't spectacular, the level of immersion in whatever game your playing is quite an experience.

Apart from the driving games you mention, I'd recommend trying out:

Ace Combat 7 (limited missions but excellent fun flying a jet fighter)
Star Wars Squadrons (who wouldn't want to fly an X-wing or TIE fighter)?
Wipeout Omega Collection
Astrobot Rescue Mission (you can download a free demo from the PS Store)

.. and with 2 x Move controllers:

Beat Saber
Until Dawn Rush of Blood (horror themes are not really my thing, but this is a blast - really spooky ride on a ghost train/roller coaster).


Gary C

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15,304 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Thanks, I will try those

BUT

just sat down, feeling a bit sick.

Didn't feel too good last night so it maybe something, but when driving, every time I crashed and came to a stop, I felt nauseous. Never had any sort of motion sickness, seems I might be susceptible to lack of motion sickness smile

rxe

6,700 posts

133 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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It is motion sickness. Your brain is experiencing something different to what it’s body is telling it is going on. Your brain is thinking “I’m on a moving car” whereas all the data it is getting from your body is saying “nope, you’re sitting in a chair”.

I can’t play any VR game sitting down, it gets me close to puking!

Gary C

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15,304 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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rxe said:
It is motion sickness. Your brain is experiencing something different to what it’s body is telling it is going on. Your brain is thinking “I’m on a moving car” whereas all the data it is getting from your body is saying “nope, you’re sitting in a chair”.

I can’t play any VR game sitting down, it gets me close to puking!
I do understand it, not that daft smile I meant to say "never had any sort of motion sickness before"

I hope its not going to turn into a stopper but still feeling sick now after 30 minutes.

But as I say, I felt sick last night so it might have kicked it back off.

Wax1234

524 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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It takes time to develop ‘VR legs’ as it’s known. Short play sessions and slowly building up should see you right.

The only game that’s ever made me feel really ill was one time playing Arizona Sunshine on the PSVR, I think the resolution just wasn’t high enough and the gameplay smooth enough, left me feeling ill for a few hours after.

I’ve since upgraded to PCVR and never have an issue, even in stuff like Boneworks.

Oh and get Superhot. It’s a must have

C n C

3,915 posts

251 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Wax1234 said:
It takes time to develop ‘VR legs’ as it’s known.
Short play sessions and slowly building up should see you right.
It seems to be something that affects people differently. The guy I bought the PSVR kit from had motion sickness issues which was why he was selling it, as he never used it. As a result it was virtually as new.

I've not felt sick playing at all, but have had moments of what I'd imagine vertigo feels like especially when looking down. This is funnily enough why I prefer to play seated if the game allows it, as there is no danger of physically falling over!

Your advice to the OP about short sessions seems a sensible approach, along with maybe trying a few different games (not all driving) for a range of experiences building up acceptance of the tech.

Wax1234 said:
Oh and get Superhot. It’s a must have
Thanks for the tip - I'd read about it but it kind of dropped off my list. .... goes off to find a copy. thumbup

Gary C

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15,304 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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C n C said:
Wax1234 said:
It takes time to develop ‘VR legs’ as it’s known.
Short play sessions and slowly building up should see you right.
It seems to be something that affects people differently. The guy I bought the PSVR kit from had motion sickness issues which was why he was selling it, as he never used it. As a result it was virtually as new.

I've not felt sick playing at all, but have had moments of what I'd imagine vertigo feels like especially when looking down. This is funnily enough why I prefer to play seated if the game allows it, as there is no danger of physically falling over!

Your advice to the OP about short sessions seems a sensible approach, along with maybe trying a few different games (not all driving) for a range of experiences building up acceptance of the tech.

Wax1234 said:
Oh and get Superhot. It’s a must have
Thanks for the tip - I'd read about it but it kind of dropped off my list. .... goes off to find a copy. thumbup
Seems good advice, I will try it.

Might also try skyrim, that could be visually impressive in VR

sociopath

3,433 posts

96 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Sticking my oar in here, can these vr kits be used with spectacles?

I ask as I'm blind as a bat and woukdnt want to waste my money

I wear varifocals

Thanks

hutchst

3,727 posts

126 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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One can't help but feel sorry for the family dog when VR porn catches on.

C n C

3,915 posts

251 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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sociopath said:
Sticking my oar in here, can these vr kits be used with spectacles?

I ask as I'm blind as a bat and wouldn't want to waste my money

I wear varifocals

Thanks
I only have experience of the PSVR, and I wear specs for normal vision (+1.5 diopters in each eye).

I've tried with and without specs and get a clearer view using the spectacles. Physically I find it comfortable to use specs with the VR headset.

I'm not sure what effect your varifocals would have as I'm guessing that the VR images are all on the same physical plane with the optics of the headset pre-configured so that the images likely appear to your eyes to be at a far distance. You may find that a pair of specs with the equivalent prescription to the "far" end of your varifocals would work well. These should be cheap to get hold of via online spectacles suppliers.

Obviously this is all just my opinion so happy to be corrected by anyone with greater knowledge on the subject.

paul99

822 posts

273 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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I found putting a fan in front of me helped with motion sickness, also helps keep you cool as the headset can make you feel a bit stuffy after a while. Ive only really felt dodgy after longish sessions playing Ultrawings and Arizona Sunshine but like others have said short sessions regularly can help build your tolerance, also static games won't affect you at all, try Superhot its excellent.
I think if your susceptible to motion sickness generally VR can be tough going, a couple of my friends started feeling ill after just a few minutes.
I'm a bit fan of PSVR, it's a bargain now and big library of games available cheaply. Sadly I'm not sure we will see anything specific on the PS5 until PSVR2 assuming Sony hopefully continue with VR, they have patched a few games to make use of the extra horsepower and hopefully others will follow but I don't imagine there will be many more AAA VR games as they gradually phase out the PS4.
Although the PS5 supports PSVR it does suffer with lack of USB ports, PSVR uses up 2 leaving none left for a exernal USB Hdd for your PS4 games, you can use certain USB hubs which is how I got round it.

Gary C

Original Poster:

15,304 posts

209 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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paul99 said:
I found putting a fan in front of me helped with motion sickness, also helps keep you cool as the headset can make you feel a bit stuffy after a while.
Although the PS5 supports PSVR it does suffer with lack of USB ports, PSVR uses up 2 leaving none left for a exernal USB Hdd for your PS4 games, you can use certain USB hubs which is how I got round it.
Will try the fan smile

The USB thing is a pain as I need external HD, Wheel and PSVR on the PS4 so need to use a hub as it is.

It will be interesting to see how the PSVR develops on the 5, I imagine any VR2 will increase resolution rather than anything else.

RizzoTheRat

29,023 posts

222 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I get a bit of motion sickness in cats and boats, but have been fine with Superhot (awesome game, wish it was longer) and beat sabre as the only movement is when you move, games that move while i stay stationary tend to be a problem though

Wax1234

524 posts

204 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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The two big issues with the PSVR is the tracking via light globes and a camera and the lack of an analogue stick on the controllers, so many games I played had a fudge a free loco mode using the wands and it never felt right

ooo000ooo

2,647 posts

224 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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hutchst said:
One can't help but feel sorry for the family dog when VR porn catches on.
Bought the youngest an oculus quest for Xmas, thought i should test it to make sure it was working ok before xmas day. Kids were at school, wife at work so i had the living room to myself. Played about with it for a while, went to take the headset off so bent down to set the controllers on the floor. I didn't realise that the dog had assumed her normal position in front of the fire and punched her in the head.

Gary C

Original Poster:

15,304 posts

209 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Well, Dirt VR is amazing.

Just moved up to a T16 and its incredible.

So much more realistic and in some ways 'easier' as you can position and balance the car so much better.

Still feel a little 'odd' but its getting better. Just hope it doesn't bugger up my balance perception in the real car.

J4CKO

46,970 posts

230 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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I just got a Quest 2 to replace my Rift, played it for a bit today but it made me feel really queasy.

Might not be the Quest, could be the half bottle of Champagne, beers and Brandy later on, feeling suitably wretched today biggrin

Dry January is here !

Gary C

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15,304 posts

209 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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I bet VR would be a disaster with alcohol.

I still get moments, normally when I crash and come to a rapid stop, just for a moment it feels a bit yucky.

So next I need a 3d full freedom actuated seat smile

Gary C

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15,304 posts

209 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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One amusing thing with DirtVR, you can stick your head out of the window and have a look at the car, only to find the Alpine A110 has no wheels, and the T16 has no rear end !