What to do with sons Xmas present
What to do with sons Xmas present
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dasbimmerowner

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366 posts

165 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Gents,

In these days of awful interest rates my father has decided to offload his taxable interest earnings on to the grandkids. Net result my 5yr old has about 7k, currently sat in an account getting 0.5% whilst I try and sort something better out. The better bit is what I'm trying to work out, and I'm struggling.

Any thoughts on what I should do with it? I've looked at kids savings accounts and lots are regular saver types of have low maximum deposit limits. I've also checked out premium bonds but they're hardly great either. I was thinking if perhaps a 250 tracker? But really my knowledge of the markets is very limited.

I don't really see him needing it for at least 10 years and in truth is rather if it sort of looked after itself.

Ideas welcomed from anyone who's had a similar conundrum.

  • Mrs says we can't lose him money...

PeteinSQ

2,346 posts

234 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Junior stocks and shares ISA with Vanguard invested in their lifestrategy fund. Over the 13 years between now and him hitting adulthood it's a pretty good choice. Both my boys' money is in there.

TCX

1,976 posts

79 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Take a chance,quite a few shares in last year £7 k would have made £70-£100k plus ,possible to do that in year or two

Benbay001

5,852 posts

181 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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TCX said:
Take a chance,quite a few shares in last year £7 k would have made £70-£100k plus ,possible to do that in year or two
Unless the op is going to chuck all his kids money on some AIM mining company i don't think thats remotely likely.

cs174

1,271 posts

244 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Junior ISA or Pension. Invest in a Global or Tech fund. You can afford to take some risk as there's plenty of time for it to recover. Vanguard and Fundsmith are also popular choices.

Stuart70

4,129 posts

207 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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TCX said:
Take a chance,quite a few shares in last year £7 k would have made £70-£100k plus ,possible to do that in year or two
Really? Your crystal balls must be impressive.

S6PNJ

5,777 posts

305 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Open a JISA with IM and stick it all in PHE. See the IM sticky for more info or just PM JulianPH for more info.

croyde

25,697 posts

254 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I want some of that action hehe

My stocks and shares have averaged 9.5% per year over 10 years or more.

They have weathered the storms, so far, as I have been in long term.

A child's ISA would be my bet.

My Fundsmith alone has gained 18% in a year and a half, so including the plummeting stock market of earlier in the year. They must be doing something right.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

222 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Until you decide why not drop it into Premium Bonds - or at least hold part of it there ongoing.

Children’s pension is a good shout - you’ll get a further 20% on it from the govt up to c£3k per year.

LISA - not sure if kids can get this but worth checking and the govt pay in is very good.


durbster

11,842 posts

246 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I have a similar situation and have been looking at the Nutmeg JISA:
https://www.nutmeg.com/junior-isa

I set up a Nutmeg ISA a while ago on medium risk and was impressed how well it weathered the COVID storm.

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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If you want a simple life Vanguard Global Tracker via Vanguard's own platform.

Could look at Intelligent Money but not sure there's that much value add for it?

Main thing is low fees and set and forget IMO.

NRS

25,472 posts

225 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Shares have to be the best call on that timescale surely. Global tracker fund with as low costs as possible (basically a fund that tries to mimic having a piece of "most" companies in the world. This spreads the risk that one area of the world/part of the economy does less well and so you can buy and forget). Shares are called "higher risk" but time lowers the risk picture. Over 10 years inflation will kill lose a lot of money if just sat in the bank with rubbish interest rates.

VR99

1,374 posts

87 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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I guess it depends on your risk tolerance, shares is one option and you 'might' do well out of them...in the same boat I would go down the more vanilla/boring route of a global or multi-asset index fund. I would also go 100% Equities too given your timeframe for investing and child's age (esp if the timeframe extends to 15+ years) but again depends on your attitude to risk.
I like the fire and forget strategy, it may not yield the best returns but the simplicity means I don't need to think about it;DD every month, job done. This is what I currently do with a VLS 100 albeit it's for myself rather than kids.


Edited by VR99 on Wednesday 30th December 08:53

xeny

5,438 posts

102 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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dasbimmerowner said:
  • Mrs says we can't lose him money...
You have the joy of explaining to her that inflation guarantees you'll lose money on it if you do nothing.

If I had the spare ISA allowance, I'd put it in an iWeb (so very low fees) ISA (so no tax to pay) and use it to buy Fundsmith I (so lowest fee option) accumulator ( so dividends are automatically reinvested within the fund).

Owner's manual for Fundsmith - https://www.fundsmith.co.uk/docs/default-source/do...

Historic returns are not bad : https://www.hl.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-prices-...

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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dasbimmerowner said:
  • Mrs says we can't lose him money...
Actually that's an interesting one that I didn't spot.

That pretty much means savings or NS&I type products but you aren't going to do much other than maybe preserve the principal.

You could maybe look at lower volatility investments.

Honestly I'd do a bit of homework and think whether you could use this money to get him into some really good habits.

Play around with a compound interest calculator and see what happens if you split the money out over say ten years and drip-feed into an investment if you don't want to throw the whole amount in in one go.

https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/finance/calculat...

Countdown

47,791 posts

220 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Have you considered something like this ?

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Bitcoin

NRS

25,472 posts

225 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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xeny said:
dasbimmerowner said:
  • Mrs says we can't lose him money...
You have the joy of explaining to her that inflation guarantees you'll lose money on it if you do nothing.

If I had the spare ISA allowance, I'd put it in an iWeb (so very low fees) ISA (so no tax to pay) and use it to buy Fundsmith I (so lowest fee option) accumulator ( so dividends are automatically reinvested within the fund).

Owner's manual for Fundsmith - https://www.fundsmith.co.uk/docs/default-source/do...

Historic returns are not bad : https://www.hl.co.uk/funds/fund-discounts,-prices-...
Did it super quick, so might have messed it up, but if I didn't miscalculate then assuming similar rates to the past 10 years he'd lose something like 30-35% of his money if left in a bank account over the 10 years.

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Countdown said:
Have you considered something like this ?
I do hope that's a practical joke hehe

chip*

1,675 posts

252 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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Take a look at iWeb and Fidelity as they don't charge a platform/service fee. (Fidelity is free of service charge for all junior SIPP and ISA accounts) which are substantial saving for a long term holding i.e. you can hold investment cheaper than going direct with the investment firm! Other benefits include access to the market / not tied to a single investment product or firm, and they are both financially solid company.

Vanguard has been mentioned above,and you should take a look at their Lifestrategy fund e.g. the LS 20% or LS 40% which are at lower end of the risk scale. You can read up per below link, and opening an account takes a few minutes online.

https://www.vanguardinvestor.co.uk/investing-expla...