National Education Union - announcement due...

[W12GT]

Just had a tip off from a teacher friend that the NEU have called an emergency executive meeting for tomorrow with an announcement expected regarding primary schools returning on Monday 4th. Wording states ‘proposed opening of primary schools’.

Any other NEU members received this?

Wonder if a walkout is pending??

[SpeckledJim]

After spring and summer 2020 was the season of drinking wine in the garden, we demand that January 2021 be the month of eating leftovers in the front room!

Also, we want a national clap! Wednesday nights suits us.

[fat80b]

The wife is a primary school teacher (and NEU member).

I mentioned this to her and she said she’d received an email from them inviting her to jin a zoom call tomorrow at 11am if she wants to listen in.

[RammyMP]

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

[CoolHands]

It’s just another union meeting, nothing exciting will happen

[21TonyK]

?????

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55511...

More than this?

[Piginapoke]

My wife is a primary school teacher, we also have this question

[LHRFlightman]

Pre school teachers asking the same question.

[W12GT]

21TonyK said:

?????

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55511...

More than this?

I think so as that article relates to London only, this may come as a shock to some but there is more to the UK than London.......

[leef44]

RammyMP said:

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

How do you stagger opening times of anything if everyone takes this stance?

[wiggy001]

RammyMP said:

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

Are they saying it’s not safe for secondary school staff? I thought secondary schools were staying closed to prepare them for mass testing which is being implemented to stop secondary school kids and their families spreading it within the community. ie nothing to do with protecting teachers?

[SpeckledJim]

wiggy001 said:

RammyMP said:

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

Are they saying it’s not safe for secondary school staff? I thought secondary schools were staying closed to prepare them for mass testing which is being implemented to stop secondary school kids and their families spreading it within the community. ie nothing to do with protecting teachers?

It’s this. But the teachers aren’t going to let the Tories get away with it!!!

[Murph7355]

RammyMP said:

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

Risk, reward and practicalities.

The older the kids, the more able they are to learn remotely.

Nobody is saying that everyone who gets the virus is going to die. No one has ever said that. So the whole "expendable" line is frankly bullst. Teachers in at risk groups are still able to self-isolate (certainly they do at our kids' school).

What they are saying is that they want the minimum number of people at risk of contracting and spreading the virus when balanced against the "reward". In this instance it means ensuring the education of younger kids isn't seriously compromised.

That whole balance and equation likely also figures in that the older the kids are, the more risky contracting the virus could be. (I get that someone will quote 0.000000001% risk of people over 16 being harmed etc...but those people don't have to stand in front of news crews when a 16yr old dies...more importantly, if it were their 16yr old their view on things would be *very* different).

[kowalski655]

RammyMP said:

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

Secondary school kids can be left home alone,primary ones cant,so parents cant go to work & keep the economy afloat/make profits for the bosses

[TCX]

kowalski655 said:

RammyMP said:

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

Secondary school kids can be left home alone,primary ones cant,so parents cant go to work & keep the economy afloat/make profits for the bosses

And also pay for the parents,including teachers mortgage,electric bills,pcp's etc....

[RammyMP]

TCX said:

kowalski655 said:

RammyMP said:

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

Secondary school kids can be left home alone,primary ones cant,so parents cant go to work & keep the economy afloat/make profits for the bosses

And also pay for the parents,including teachers mortgage,electric bills,pcp's etc....

I get why we need the schools to stay open but it does seem primary schools are at the bottom of the priority list. I don’t think they should close any schools but if you watch the news the NHS is on it’s arse.

Delay the start so schools can arrange testing, that’s a joke too, the government should be arranging that not school staff, they should be teaching.

My daughter is 11, I can’t leave her at home all day while I’m at work, if she’s not back in school soon she might have to come work with me.

It’s all a st show.

[Salmonofdoubt]

SpeckledJim said:

wiggy001 said:

RammyMP said:

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

Are they saying it’s not safe for secondary school staff? I thought secondary schools were staying closed to prepare them for mass testing which is being implemented to stop secondary school kids and their families spreading it within the community. ie nothing to do with protecting teachers?

It’s this. But the teachers aren’t going to let the Tories get away with it!!!

I can’t believe that after almost a year there are still people pedalling emotional bks that implies anyone who contracts Covid will die. Despite government figures that show a mortality rate is very low and even lower when you consider that ‘deaths within 28 days is what’s being measured.

[oyster]

RammyMP said:

I don’t know why the government seem to think primary school teachers and school staff are expendable. If it’s not safe for senior schools how’s it safe for junior schools?

The impact on primary school children of not being in school is FAR greater - that’s why.

[eliot]

LHRFlightman said:

Pre school teachers asking the same question.

wife works in a nursery - so feeding and changing babies, no PPE at all - doesn’t get much closer contact than that does it?
Secondary teachers sit behind perspex walls at my kids school.

[oddman]

ONS figures for first wave - The rate of COVID-19-related deaths among teaching and educational professionals, which for the purposes of the data collection excludes TAs, educational support assistants, lunchtime and crossing patrols, school secretaries and advisers and inspectors, was 6.7 per 100,000 for men and 3.3 for women.

Compare with death rates in other sectors. Health is misleading as it includes frontline as well as non contact professions




As NHS frontline seeing COVID patients every day. I and my colleagues are pretty ped off with the antics of teaching unions