When this year will you want to start going to gigs again?
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I've got a bunch of rescheduled gigs this year - mainly June, but one in early February...which surprisingly hasn't yet been postponed a second time.
...and it's got me thinking...do I REALLY want to go to a gig in London in 5 weeks time???
So...given we're all missing live music, how long do all of you plan to leave it before you head back into a venue?
...and it's got me thinking...do I REALLY want to go to a gig in London in 5 weeks time???
So...given we're all missing live music, how long do all of you plan to leave it before you head back into a venue?
All of my upcoming gigs are reschedules from pre-Covid bookings...but I know exactly what the OP in that thread means.
I can also very much see it from the musicians perspective - they've been massively let down (/shafted) by the government, both in the Covid response and in the Brexit deal. They NEED* to start touring again, and they NEED full venues.
...but unless you're an invulnerable-feeling 20-something, who really wants to step back into a confined space with a couple of thousand strangers all breathing heavily right next to you???
* Well, except for the 1% that are the big names.
Interesting question. I go to about 30 gigs a year, mostly in London, but some local to me, and 5-6 festivals. However I'm also on the 'Clinically Extremely Vulnerable' (aka Shielding) list.
So, I'm not realistically going inside a venue until I've had both shots of the vaccine - I'm thinking May or June, I am in the fourth vaccine tier behind the care homes, NHS staff, over 80s.
I've got about 10 postponed gigs and 2 festivals rolled forward as well as a Glastonbury ticket rolled over. Am absolutely gagging to get going again.
It will be very weird though. I like small sweaty intimate venues, featuring indie bands either on their way up or down. Basically a nightmare in terms of people sweating/perspiring/breathing over each other.
To think that the main problem in these venues has historically been getting served at the woefully understaffed bars.
So, I'm not realistically going inside a venue until I've had both shots of the vaccine - I'm thinking May or June, I am in the fourth vaccine tier behind the care homes, NHS staff, over 80s.
I've got about 10 postponed gigs and 2 festivals rolled forward as well as a Glastonbury ticket rolled over. Am absolutely gagging to get going again.
It will be very weird though. I like small sweaty intimate venues, featuring indie bands either on their way up or down. Basically a nightmare in terms of people sweating/perspiring/breathing over each other.
To think that the main problem in these venues has historically been getting served at the woefully understaffed bars.
PurpleTurtle said:
Interesting question. I go to about 30 gigs a year, mostly in London, but some local to me, and 5-6 festivals. However I'm also on the 'Clinically Extremely Vulnerable' (aka Shielding) list.
So, I'm not realistically going inside a venue until I've had both shots of the vaccine - I'm thinking May or June, I am in the fourth vaccine tier behind the care homes, NHS staff, over 80s.
I've got about 10 postponed gigs and 2 festivals rolled forward as well as a Glastonbury ticket rolled over. Am absolutely gagging to get going again.
It will be very weird though. I like small sweaty intimate venues, featuring indie bands either on their way up or down. Basically a nightmare in terms of people sweating/perspiring/breathing over each other.
To think that the main problem in these venues has historically been getting served at the woefully understaffed bars.
I am also in the same boat - I am also on the shielding list. I won't be going to any gigs until everyone in my household has had the vaccine. There isn't any evidence yet to say if you have had the vaccine that it stops transmission to others.So, I'm not realistically going inside a venue until I've had both shots of the vaccine - I'm thinking May or June, I am in the fourth vaccine tier behind the care homes, NHS staff, over 80s.
I've got about 10 postponed gigs and 2 festivals rolled forward as well as a Glastonbury ticket rolled over. Am absolutely gagging to get going again.
It will be very weird though. I like small sweaty intimate venues, featuring indie bands either on their way up or down. Basically a nightmare in terms of people sweating/perspiring/breathing over each other.
To think that the main problem in these venues has historically been getting served at the woefully understaffed bars.
maniac886 said:
I am also in the same boat - I am also on the shielding list. I won't be going to any gigs until everyone in my household has had the vaccine. There isn't any evidence yet to say if you have had the vaccine that it stops transmission to others.
Not completely. But science does rather suggest it reduces the risk quite substantially:If you've had the vaccine then any infection you get will be shorter and shallower.
...in which case you'll (a) have less of the virus in your respiratory tract to breathe/cough out; and (b) you'll be past that point quicker.
...and contracting the virus depends on 'viral load' - you need a certain amount of it for it to take hold (unlike e.g. measles, which is a virulent bugger). So if you're exposed to too-low a level, it won't even register and you don't catch it.
...on top of which if you're exposed to a high-enough-but-still low level, you will contract a milder form of the virus than if you got hit by a truck load of it (e.g. if you were working in a high-risk environment, or living with someone infected)
All of which, in conclusion, means that vaccinated people, except in the very-rare cases where the vaccine doesn't 'take', should be a very low risk to others, at least until the damn thing mutates enough to neuter the vaccine*. YMMV, of course...there will always be exceptions.
* Please see the publicity elsewhere about the mRNA vaccine and the way it works - if that's 100% true and not just marketing, then a fair bit of mutation is covered too.
havoc said:
Not completely. But science does rather suggest it reduces the risk quite substantially:
If you've had the vaccine then any infection you get will be shorter and shallower.
...in which case you'll (a) have less of the virus in your respiratory tract to breathe/cough out; and (b) you'll be past that point quicker.
...and contracting the virus depends on 'viral load' - you need a certain amount of it for it to take hold (unlike e.g. measles, which is a virulent bugger). So if you're exposed to too-low a level, it won't even register and you don't catch it.
...on top of which if you're exposed to a high-enough-but-still low level, you will contract a milder form of the virus than if you got hit by a truck load of it (e.g. if you were working in a high-risk environment, or living with someone infected)
All of which, in conclusion, means that vaccinated people, except in the very-rare cases where the vaccine doesn't 'take', should be a very low risk to others, at least until the damn thing mutates enough to neuter the vaccine*. YMMV, of course...there will always be exceptions.
* Please see the publicity elsewhere about the mRNA vaccine and the way it works - if that's 100% true and not just marketing, then a fair bit of mutation is covered too.
That’s fair enough - for me it’s not worth risking it- I am ok to wait a few more months after I have had the vaccine so I don’t risk passing it onto others even if the risk is small.If you've had the vaccine then any infection you get will be shorter and shallower.
...in which case you'll (a) have less of the virus in your respiratory tract to breathe/cough out; and (b) you'll be past that point quicker.
...and contracting the virus depends on 'viral load' - you need a certain amount of it for it to take hold (unlike e.g. measles, which is a virulent bugger). So if you're exposed to too-low a level, it won't even register and you don't catch it.
...on top of which if you're exposed to a high-enough-but-still low level, you will contract a milder form of the virus than if you got hit by a truck load of it (e.g. if you were working in a high-risk environment, or living with someone infected)
All of which, in conclusion, means that vaccinated people, except in the very-rare cases where the vaccine doesn't 'take', should be a very low risk to others, at least until the damn thing mutates enough to neuter the vaccine*. YMMV, of course...there will always be exceptions.
* Please see the publicity elsewhere about the mRNA vaccine and the way it works - if that's 100% true and not just marketing, then a fair bit of mutation is covered too.
would love to be back at a gig already... or to be at the weekly local folk club.
after Wacken Winter Nights '20 was cancelled due to storms preventing the main stage tent being erected all tickets were rolled over to feb '21... given no bands have been announced yet or any other news... i highly doubt it'll be going ahead this year too
after Wacken Winter Nights '20 was cancelled due to storms preventing the main stage tent being erected all tickets were rolled over to feb '21... given no bands have been announced yet or any other news... i highly doubt it'll be going ahead this year too
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