Current BC Rich range
Current BC Rich range
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thewarlock

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3,285 posts

69 months

Thursday 7th January 2021
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Not really in the market for another guitar just now, and if I was, it wouldn't be one of these; a friend had a bottom of the range warlock back when we were in school, and it was the worst electric guitar I ever played.

But,

I was having a nosy about their website last night, and jesus, they're making some hideous things!

How did this conversation go? "We're gonna build a ten string. What? Make the headstock bigger to accomodate the extra tuners? Na, check this out"



Or this, their double neck:



The tuners, the controls, it's utterly hideous! What on earth were they thinking?

Pastor Of Muppets

3,801 posts

86 months

Thursday 7th January 2021
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Well it has done one thing they desire, got folk talking about BC Rich.

Never liked the look of their guitars and never really rated them playing wise, but at least they
are still there and trying some innovation, In an age where new young players seem to be on the wane
you have to give them some credit for trying to keep it alive.

thewarlock

Original Poster:

3,285 posts

69 months

Thursday 7th January 2021
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Pastor Of Muppets said:
Well it has done one thing they desire, got folk talking about BC Rich.

Never liked the look of their guitars and never really rated them playing wise, but at least they
are still there and trying some innovation, In an age where new young players seem to be on the wane
you have to give them some credit for trying to keep it alive.
Not sure I can agree.

The Rickenbacker 12 string headstock was innovative.

That thing is a mess, IMO. I'd be happy to be wrong, but I'd imagine tuning stability is gash, and tuning looks like a nuisance, since the tuners for your octave pairs are 3 feet apart.

Mastodon2

14,167 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th January 2021
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The string pull angle for the bridge tuners on the double neck Bich is awful, but these aren't new ideas or designs, BC rich was making these things in the mid 1970s. They are outdated designs, designed to cater to people who want nostalgia over good guitars, like the people who buy Gibsons.

thewarlock

Original Poster:

3,285 posts

69 months

Thursday 7th January 2021
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Mastodon2 said:
The string pull angle for the bridge tuners on the double neck Bich is awful, but these aren't new ideas or designs, BC rich was making these things in the mid 1970s. They are outdated designs, designed to cater to people who want nostalgia over good guitars, like the people who buy Gibsons.
laugh

Gibson are innovating! Remember their robo-tuners about 4 or 5 years ago, they were a raging success...

gazza285

10,874 posts

232 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Which guitar companies are innovating then?

Edited by gazza285 on Saturday 9th January 17:36

AdeTuono

7,607 posts

251 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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gazza285 said:
Which guitar companies are inovating then?
Relish?


AdeTuono

7,607 posts

251 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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thewarlock said:
Not sure I can agree.

The Rickenbacker 12 string headstock was innovative.

That thing is a mess, IMO. I'd be happy to be wrong, but I'd imagine tuning stability is gash, and tuning looks like a nuisance, since the tuners for your octave pairs are 3 feet apart.
With that username, are you sure you have no connection with BC Rich? smile

gazza285

10,874 posts

232 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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AdeTuono said:
gazza285 said:
Which guitar companies are innovating then?
Relish?
Ugly looking buggers, aren't they?

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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BC Rich are all aesthetics.

Remember the Bich's Back...

AdeTuono

7,607 posts

251 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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gazza285 said:
AdeTuono said:
gazza285 said:
Which guitar companies are innovating then?
Relish?
Ugly looking buggers, aren't they?
That they are. But innovative all the same...


gazza285

10,874 posts

232 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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I would rather have a nice Les Paul though, which is why I do have a nice Les Paul.

Mastodon2 might not approve, but I like it. What guitar would you buy Mastodon2?

AdeTuono

7,607 posts

251 months

Sunday 10th January 2021
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gazza285 said:
AdeTuono said:
gazza285 said:
Which guitar companies are innovating then?
Relish?
Ugly looking buggers, aren't they?
Not as ugly as this...



I spent ages looking for one, then bought this from World Guitars a few years back. Guaranteed to polarise opinion. biggrin

Rammlied

1,393 posts

214 months

Sunday 10th January 2021
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Always wanted to own a Warlock cos they used to think they look so very METALLLL!!!!11!!ONE!!11!!!

AdeTuono said:
Not as ugly as this...



I spent ages looking for one, then bought this from World Guitars a few years back. Guaranteed to polarise opinion. biggrin
Damn I quite like that - is there a black version boxedin

tuscaneer

7,951 posts

249 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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must admit i'm scratching my head at the gibson dissaproval......my go to for the last 25 years has been my 96 les paul standard... head and shoulders above every other guitar i've ever had.. and in every department .... head and shoulders better...

thewarlock

Original Poster:

3,285 posts

69 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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AdeTuono said:
With that username, are you sure you have no connection with BC Rich? smile
laugh

As I was trying to think of a username, Probot + Jack Black - I Am The Warlock came on Spotify.

glazbagun

15,167 posts

221 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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gazza285 said:
Which guitar companies are innovating then?

Edited by gazza285 on Saturday 9th January 17:36
When I think of modern innovation (despite giving away my age), I think of:

Parker (Use of carbon, big on S/S frets. Went bust)
Klein (Ergonomic body, & headless. went bust)
Reverend (some funky pickup designs)
Godin (Multiac & synth access series still going)
Rainsong (carbon fibre acoustics. Still going, but haven't seen a real one despite their age)
Not sure if I'd include Taylor with their neck fitment, but that may just be snobbery on my part.
Line 6 with their whole variax thing.

Personally I think innovation in mass market guitars is doomed as most just want another Strat or Telecaster to add to their collection.

gazza285

10,874 posts

232 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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glazbagun said:
When I think of modern innovation (despite giving away my age), I think of:

Parker (Use of carbon, big on S/S frets. Went bust)
Klein (Ergonomic body, & headless. went bust)
Reverend (some funky pickup designs)
Godin (Multiac & synth access series still going)
Rainsong (carbon fibre acoustics. Still going, but haven't seen a real one despite their age)
Not sure if I'd include Taylor with their neck fitment, but that may just be snobbery on my part.
Line 6 with their whole variax thing.

Personally I think innovation in mass market guitars is doomed as most just want another Strat or Telecaster to add to their collection.
My main issue with Parker, Klein and Reverend guitars is their universal ugliness. I don’t mind innovation, but the end result still has to look nice.

My issues with Line 6 are all reliability ones, fixing a classic valve amp holds no fear, but when a proprietary chipset has failed, and replacements are no longer available, the amp is scrap.





thewarlock

Original Poster:

3,285 posts

69 months

Tuesday 12th January 2021
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gazza285 said:
My main issue with Parker, Klein and Reverend guitars is their universal ugliness. I don’t mind innovation, but the end result still has to look nice.

My issues with Line 6 are all reliability ones, fixing a classic valve amp holds no fear, but when a proprietary chipset has failed, and replacements are no longer available, the amp is scrap.
I think Reverend make some good looking guitars.


gazza285

10,874 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th January 2021
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thewarlock said:
gazza285 said:
My main issue with Parker, Klein and Reverend guitars is their universal ugliness. I don’t mind innovation, but the end result still has to look nice.

My issues with Line 6 are all reliability ones, fixing a classic valve amp holds no fear, but when a proprietary chipset has failed, and replacements are no longer available, the amp is scrap.
I think Reverend make some good looking guitars.
They do make some good looking guitars, but these appear to be the ones with obviously copied designs, their original designs just leave me cold.