Analogue phone system to be switched off by 2025

[Mr Pointy]

An interesting article about the upcoming termination of the entire analogue phone system which wil happen in 2025:

https://www.draytek.co.uk/information/blog/the-end...

Not only will all analogue phones stop working but also a number of other devices & services:

• EPoS machines (Credit card machines and sales registers) - Estimated 500,000 still in use
• Personal safety devices. Used with vulnerable persons, fall alarms etc - Estimated 1 million still in use
• Intruder & fire alarms
• Traffic light systems & other industrial monitoring
• Dialysis machines and other medical systems
• Payphones (these are most likely to still work on a VoIP line but billing signalling may not)
• Fax machines
• All ISDN services

I know of people who still use a landline & don't have a mobile phone so unless they buy a router with a VOIP interface they'll be cut off. I can't see everyone being ready for this in four year's time.

[Alucidnation]

If you actually read the article, it will only be 70% by 2025 but possibly 90% if they can spaff more money from hmg.

And let’s face it, openreach are a fking shower of st so even with 100% of the costs covered they would still never make the target.

And it is only properties passed, so it’s not even up to the house ready for a new connection.

[steveatesh]

Oh no, we have kept the landline going because Mrs S thnks it’s best, just in case, despite the only people ever to have called it have both passed away.

We do however get 3 to 4 spoof calls a week from BT, Amazon, Microsoft etc so they will be a real miss.

[bimsb6]

Mr Pointy said:

An interesting article about the upcoming termination of the entire analogue phone system which wil happen in 2025:

https://www.draytek.co.uk/information/blog/the-end...

Not only will all analogue phones stop working but also a number of other devices & services:

• EPoS machines (Credit card machines and sales registers) - Estimated 500,000 still in use
• Personal safety devices. Used with vulnerable persons, fall alarms etc - Estimated 1 million still in use
• Intruder & fire alarms
• Traffic light systems & other industrial monitoring
• Dialysis machines and other medical systems
• Payphones (these are most likely to still work on a VoIP line but billing signalling may not)
• Fax machines
• All ISDN services

I know of people who still use a landline & don't have a mobile phone so unless they buy a router with a VOIP interface they'll be cut off. I can't see everyone being ready for this in four year's time.

We had some internal comms this week that said copper would be with us for a couple of decades yet ! Not country wide but certainly fairly widespread .

[clockworks]

I wonder how they will implement VoIP that doesn't need a mains power supply?

I keep an old-style plug-in phone handy in case I need to make an emergency call during a power cut. Can't see anything fibre-based working without power - unless they give every customer a UPS, or keep the copper wires to provide the supply.

Of course, if they get around to giving me a decent mobile signal (even 3g would be nice), I won't need a landline phone. My mobile only works upstairs, and the signal drops out unless I stay still, by the window.

The next village along from me (on the coast, so down a significant dip) was without a mobile signal from before Christmas until 2 days ago due to equipment failure, so it could be worse.
We only got FTTC a few years ago, and don't even get all the multiplexes on our local TV transmitter.

These "improvements" probably work fine in a lot of areas, but not necessarily out in the sticks.

[bimsb6]

clockworks said:

I wonder how they will implement VoIP that doesn't need a mains power supply?

I keep an old-style plug-in phone handy in case I need to make an emergency call during a power cut. Can't see anything fibre-based working without power - unless they give every customer a UPS, or keep the copper wires to provide the supply.

Of course, if they get around to giving me a decent mobile signal (even 3g would be nice), I won't need a landline phone. My mobile only works upstairs, and the signal drops out unless I stay still, by the window.

The next village along from me (on the coast, so down a significant dip) was without a mobile signal from before Christmas until 2 days ago due to equipment failure, so it could be worse.
We only got FTTC a few years ago, and don't even get all the multiplexes on our local TV transmitter.

These "improvements" probably work fine in a lot of areas, but not necessarily out in the sticks.

The original fttp had a battery backup in it , they seem to have got over the requirement to provide a powerfail dial tone .

[clockworks]

bimsb6 said:

The original fttp had a battery backup in it , they seem to have got over the requirement to provide a powerfail dial tone .

Good to know, thanks

[bimsb6]

clockworks said:

bimsb6 said:

The original fttp had a battery backup in it , they seem to have got over the requirement to provide a powerfail dial tone .

Good to know, thanks

Sorry for clarification , they dont supply a battery backup so there will be no emergency backup , it used to be a legal requirement , that was what i meant .

[Tony1963]

When we moved into this house four years ago, BT etc could only supply ‘broadband’ at 0.25mbps. A local company provided internet via a microwave transmitter, I think, on a church in the next village. 12mbps dl and 2 ul. So to save money we used that with VoIP, avoided BT completely, result.

And then the inevitable happened. Yep, power outage and a medical emergency. In the suffolk countryside 3G and 4G haven’t improved one bit in the 12 years I’ve been working here, and I doubt it will now that 5G, lol, is the next big thing. So, we are back to landline and, wahoo, FTTC. I really won’t be giving up the landline willingly.