New Australian version of “ The ladies of Aintree “ thread?

[nigelpugh7]

I was thinking this might have some potential!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9154457...

I miss the good old days of the “ Ladies of Aintree “ threads!

I could do with some cheering up right now, so was looking for inspiration!

[Mikebentley]

I had no idea they were in such a good position regarding CV19.

[nigelpugh7]

Mikebentley said:

I had no idea they were in such a good position regarding CV19.

Yes I was pretty shocked at that too!

And even more bizarrely the Cheltenham Festival in March is going ahead too!


https://www.thejockeyclub.co.uk/cheltenham/events-...

[Mikebentley]

I met a man this week who is adamant he caught CV19 at past years Cheltenham Festival.

[Spare tyre]

My friend has recently been to a music festival from the pictures 10s of thousands

This is in nz, all looked normal

[anonymous-user]

nigelpugh7 said:

Mikebentley said:

I had no idea they were in such a good position regarding CV19.

Yes I was pretty shocked at that too!

And even more bizarrely the Cheltenham Festival in March is going ahead too!


https://www.thejockeyclub.co.uk/cheltenham/events-...

They can plan for it to go ahead, and they will happy take your money, but it won’t go ahead..... based on what I’ve seen this weekend the U.K. case/death rates aren’t going down any time soon. Pleased that Australia can hold mass open air events but can’t help think that could have been us too....

[Tyre Smoke]

Spare tyre said:

My friend has recently been to a music festival from the pictures 10s of thousands

This is in nz, all looked normal

That's because it is. No restrictions anywhere.

However...

If you want to go to NZ, you must book two weeks in a Covid facility and have confirmation before you will be permitted on board the aircraft. You need a negative test before you go, another test in day 1 in the facility and another on day 12. If both are negative, you can leave on day 14. Oh, and it's NZ$2000.00 per person in the facility and you cannot leave (obviously).

[SCEtoAUX]

pablo said:

nigelpugh7 said:

Mikebentley said:

I had no idea they were in such a good position regarding CV19.

Yes I was pretty shocked at that too!

And even more bizarrely the Cheltenham Festival in March is going ahead too!


https://www.thejockeyclub.co.uk/cheltenham/events-...

They can plan for it to go ahead, and they will happy take your money, but it won’t go ahead..... based on what I’ve seen this weekend the U.K. case/death rates aren’t going down any time soon. Pleased that Australia can hold mass open air events but can’t help think that could have been us too....

And what exactly have you seen this weekend then?

Of course death rates are going to go down soon, by next weekend around five million of the most vulnerable will have been vaccinated, and whilst it takes a couple of weeks for immunity, there is little doubt that we should really start seeing better figures by mid-February and by Mid-March I would think it highly likely that limited numbers will be able to attend racing events.

[speedy_thrills]

Spare tyre said:

This is in nz, all looked normal

It is normal but we have the major advantage of being an island nation. Once it became clear that China had failed to contain its pandemic and we saw what was starting in Italy the government wound down travel. Then wait for this all to blowover. Much to the chargrin of the WHO muppets who wanted travel to continue.

What baffles me is that other countries (or even regions/counties/states, as per Australia) never did the same. It's insane to me that any country thought that locking people in their houses for months on end is OK because that way they can keep borders open a bit longer.

[Mikebentley]

Tyre Smoke said:

Spare tyre said:

My friend has recently been to a music festival from the pictures 10s of thousands

This is in nz, all looked normal

That's because it is. No restrictions anywhere.

However...

If you want to go to NZ, you must book two weeks in a Covid facility and have confirmation before you will be permitted on board the aircraft. You need a negative test before you go, another test in day 1 in the facility and another on day 12. If both are negative, you can leave on day 14. Oh, and it's NZ$2000.00 per person in the facility and you cannot leave (obviously).

Surely isn’t this how it should have been everywhere?

[Tyre Smoke]

Mikebentley said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Spare tyre said:

My friend has recently been to a music festival from the pictures 10s of thousands

This is in nz, all looked normal

That's because it is. No restrictions anywhere.

However...

If you want to go to NZ, you must book two weeks in a Covid facility and have confirmation before you will be permitted on board the aircraft. You need a negative test before you go, another test in day 1 in the facility and another on day 12. If both are negative, you can leave on day 14. Oh, and it's NZ$2000.00 per person in the facility and you cannot leave (obviously).

Surely isn’t this how it should have been everywhere?

Hmm. We are the last stop on the line, not a hub like the UK. For example, Edinburgh Airport saw more passengers than Auckland in 2019. So probably not quite that simple.

[Evoluzione]

Mikebentley said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Spare tyre said:

My friend has recently been to a music festival from the pictures 10s of thousands

This is in nz, all looked normal

That's because it is. No restrictions anywhere.

However...

If you want to go to NZ, you must book two weeks in a Covid facility and have confirmation before you will be permitted on board the aircraft. You need a negative test before you go, another test in day 1 in the facility and another on day 12. If both are negative, you can leave on day 14. Oh, and it's NZ$2000.00 per person in the facility and you cannot leave (obviously).

Surely isn’t this how it should have been everywhere?

Yes. The problem is we're too reliant on imports of things to keep us going though, not self sufficient enough.

[Mr Pointy]

speedy_thrills said:

Spare tyre said:

This is in nz, all looked normal

It is normal but we have the major advantage of being an island nation. Once it became clear that China had failed to contain its pandemic and we saw what was starting in Italy the government wound down travel. Then wait for this all to blowover. Much to the chargrin of the WHO muppets who wanted travel to continue.

What baffles me is that other countries (or even regions/counties/states, as per Australia) never did the same. It's insane to me that any country thought that locking people in their houses for months on end is OK because that way they can keep borders open a bit longer.

You're a small island in the middle of nowhere with very few international entry points & your total population is half that of London alone. For most counties closing borders just isn't practical.

[johnboy1975]

Evoluzione said:

Mikebentley said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Spare tyre said:

My friend has recently been to a music festival from the pictures 10s of thousands

This is in nz, all looked normal

That's because it is. No restrictions anywhere.

However...

If you want to go to NZ, you must book two weeks in a Covid facility and have confirmation before you will be permitted on board the aircraft. You need a negative test before you go, another test in day 1 in the facility and another on day 12. If both are negative, you can leave on day 14. Oh, and it's NZ$2000.00 per person in the facility and you cannot leave (obviously).

Surely isn’t this how it should have been everywhere?

Yes. The problem is we're too reliant on imports of things to keep us going though, not self sufficient enough.

Out of interest- how did Aus/NZ handle imports?

(Very much not saying we should have done the same, best case is we could have minimised the first wave, which would have meant more susceptible people for the 2nd wave)

[Tyre Smoke]

How do you mean? Imports and exports continued. Except for humans!

[Evoluzione]

johnboy1975 said:

Evoluzione said:

Mikebentley said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Spare tyre said:

My friend has recently been to a music festival from the pictures 10s of thousands

This is in nz, all looked normal

That's because it is. No restrictions anywhere.

However...

If you want to go to NZ, you must book two weeks in a Covid facility and have confirmation before you will be permitted on board the aircraft. You need a negative test before you go, another test in day 1 in the facility and another on day 12. If both are negative, you can leave on day 14. Oh, and it's NZ$2000.00 per person in the facility and you cannot leave (obviously).

Surely isn’t this how it should have been everywhere?

Yes. The problem is we're too reliant on imports of things to keep us going though, not self sufficient enough.

Out of interest- how did Aus/NZ handle imports?

(Very much not saying we should have done the same, best case is we could have minimised the first wave, which would have meant more susceptible people for the 2nd wave)

Very carefully

We should have done what they did by making travelling passengers isolate for 2 weeks - properly and making them pay for it too.
But that aside what are the differences between them and us? I would say their imports come in by air and sea. The pilots of these can be easily isolated from the public and sent back.
A lot of our stuff comes by road and we can't or don't do that to the drivers.
They are my explanations, i'm no expert and would agree when you look at how others have dealt with it we aren't fairing too well. It seems like we'll leave our borders open to keep trading, then spunk the money saved on vaccines instead.

What about the long game though? Is Oz and NZ etc going to keep it up for as long as this carries on? 5, 10yrs?
Are we all going to be safe once we've been vaccinated? The unknown there is if the current vaccines cope with the mutations. The worry is that the longer it goes on the more time it gets to mutate into something which they may not work on - like Flu has.

[WyrleyD]

We were "repatriated" from NZ in May last year and at that time still in L2 lockdown. Earlier in May I happened to have a conversation with a chap in the NZ Government who said he was worried about tourism because internally they did not expect to open up the country again until late 2023/2024 assuming everyone in NZ had been vaccinated by then and anyone entering would have to have been vaccinated and be Covid clear.

[Dog Star]

Very very disappointing. None of the girls on there look at all common

[anonymous-user]

WyrleyD said:

We were "repatriated" from NZ in May last year and at that time still in L2 lockdown. Earlier in May I happened to have a conversation with a chap in the NZ Government who said he was worried about tourism because internally they did not expect to open up the country again until late 2023/2024 assuming everyone in NZ had been vaccinated by then and anyone entering would have to have been vaccinated and be Covid clear.

This pandemic is far from over. The virus may die out in countries that have been hit hard through a combination of natural immunity and vaccines. NZ and Aus are entirely reliant on the vaccines. Which don't stop you getting Covid and may not do a spectacular job of stopping transmission.

They will be vulnerable when they re-open, even with everyone vaccinated and insisting on a 'Covid pass' to get in.

In 3, 4, 5 years time, when they're re-opened, but seeing Covid deaths coming through, how popular with the current leadership be?

[Jasandjules]

SCEtoAUX said:

Of course death rates are going to go down soon.

Well, they should do by about August or so as normally viruses/pandemics ease down at the 18 month or so point and fizzle out a bit at 24 months. Though there may be issues given the stupidity of locking down and preventing normal transmission and mutation...