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Mdonnelly14 said:
Do it yourself with Mobirise instead.Ask the company who made the website: https://www.coshniven.com
Phunk said:
Ask the company who made the website: https://www.coshniven.com
‘CoshNiven were commissioned to promote GasSure and boost its sign-up numbers. This work involved planning, producing and running a multi-channel campaign across television, radio, leaflet distribution, PPC and social media.’I suspect they charged more than a couple of hundred quid...
Whilst the OP's question has been answered literally, I'm not sure it was what he is really asking.
I suspect he wants to know how much it costs to get the results that his competitors are seeing from their website. That is not achieved by simply creating a website; it demands marketing, advertising, effecting SEO and everything that goes into helping to grow a business.
I suspect he wants to know how much it costs to get the results that his competitors are seeing from their website. That is not achieved by simply creating a website; it demands marketing, advertising, effecting SEO and everything that goes into helping to grow a business.
Phunk said:
Ask the company who made the website: https://www.coshniven.com
CreativeCopywriting
Design
Marketing Strategy
Media Planning
Advertising
Social Media
For the above that the agency list in their case study I would estimate 5 figures
Whenever these types of questions pop up you get the comedy responses which say £200 or DIY it in an afternoon... As others have posted, this was done by a company who probably wouldn't put the kettle on for £200 so it is unlikely that it cost only that. The website is written in asp.net on IIS which is not the usual choice of software for someone in a bedroom knocking out wordpress sites at £200 
I suspect that you are probably in low thousands for a website like that - but as others have mentioned, its success will come from all the other work that is done around it - building a website is a bit like building an office in a field, not telling anyone, having no roads where possible clients walk by, sitting at your desk and wondering why the phone doesn't ring - the website serves a purpose in getting people to contact you - it takes the viewer on a journey from the query / need / desire they had through to either a satisfied answer (e.g. support / FAQ) or to contact the company to sign up etc. - but that journey is only once the right people are on the website in the right mental space to buy etc. - getting them there with that desire is the work of marketing - traditional / social media / online / PPC / TV / etc. etc.
If anyone tells you they can build a website for £200 - run for the hills:
a) they will be doing it using 3rd party tools to build it because they have no technical knowledge
b) they will put no effort into understanding how to build a website to help grow your business
c) there will be nothing else to support / enhance / grow the business from that website through other platforms
yes, you can find a contractor who may only charge that, but you will not be investing in the growth of your business by doing it - you will be just fooling yourself that a shiny logo and website = business success - plenty of companies with bad websites, but good businesses, and plenty with 'shiny smart' websites and bad businesses!
I suspect that you are probably in low thousands for a website like that - but as others have mentioned, its success will come from all the other work that is done around it - building a website is a bit like building an office in a field, not telling anyone, having no roads where possible clients walk by, sitting at your desk and wondering why the phone doesn't ring - the website serves a purpose in getting people to contact you - it takes the viewer on a journey from the query / need / desire they had through to either a satisfied answer (e.g. support / FAQ) or to contact the company to sign up etc. - but that journey is only once the right people are on the website in the right mental space to buy etc. - getting them there with that desire is the work of marketing - traditional / social media / online / PPC / TV / etc. etc.
If anyone tells you they can build a website for £200 - run for the hills:
a) they will be doing it using 3rd party tools to build it because they have no technical knowledge
b) they will put no effort into understanding how to build a website to help grow your business
c) there will be nothing else to support / enhance / grow the business from that website through other platforms
yes, you can find a contractor who may only charge that, but you will not be investing in the growth of your business by doing it - you will be just fooling yourself that a shiny logo and website = business success - plenty of companies with bad websites, but good businesses, and plenty with 'shiny smart' websites and bad businesses!
I know nothing of the intricacies of web design, but I do know it's about getting the proposition right and getting it in front of people to click on. Shiny award winning website that nobody sees - fail. Mediocre website that you can find when you need your boiler fixed and it says 'We fix boilers' and a phone number - win.
The key for me, and I suspect the OP, is about advertising in the right place, not relying on Google.
The key for me, and I suspect the OP, is about advertising in the right place, not relying on Google.
It will cost you £5-£10 to get this built on guru if that. It's a static site essentially, so language is largely irrelevant. Unless it's genuinely 2.0, having a crappy site is a differentiator these days!
Where cost comes in, is custom design. But it's unlikely to be required for trade site like this.
Clarity of info and marketing much more important.
Until recently I was using the same html site for years that was built in 2006 and looked like it. Have AB tested new sites but the old site keeps winning.
Where cost comes in, is custom design. But it's unlikely to be required for trade site like this.
Clarity of info and marketing much more important.
Until recently I was using the same html site for years that was built in 2006 and looked like it. Have AB tested new sites but the old site keeps winning.
Lim said:
It will cost you £5-£10 to get this built on guru if that. It's a static site essentially, so language is largely irrelevant. Unless it's genuinely 2.0, having a crappy site is a differentiator these days.
I am not sure I totally understand this but if you can point me at anyone who will produce a static site of that number of pages with the customer's colours / logo / images / content for £5 - £10 I would love to employ them - I must be doing something wrong paying staff thousands a month!!!
akirk said:
I am not sure I totally understand this
but if you can point me at anyone who will produce a static site of that number of pages with the customer's colours / logo / images / content for £5 - £10 I would love to employ them - I must be doing something wrong paying staff thousands a month!!!
If serious PM me. but if you can point me at anyone who will produce a static site of that number of pages with the customer's colours / logo / images / content for £5 - £10 I would love to employ them - I must be doing something wrong paying staff thousands a month!!!
If not, as you say, the work is in the design. Plopping the assets into a template is an hours work and doesn't require the plopper to understand what any of the words mean.
There does come a point where importance of design starts to intersect with clarity and marketing, but I'd respectfully suggest OP is not at that point yet, and would do better to concentrate mostly on marketing.
Lim said:
akirk said:
I am not sure I totally understand this
but if you can point me at anyone who will produce a static site of that number of pages with the customer's colours / logo / images / content for £5 - £10 I would love to employ them - I must be doing something wrong paying staff thousands a month!!!
If serious PM me. but if you can point me at anyone who will produce a static site of that number of pages with the customer's colours / logo / images / content for £5 - £10 I would love to employ them - I must be doing something wrong paying staff thousands a month!!!
If not, as you say, the work is in the design. Plopping the assets into a template is an hours work and doesn't require the plopper to understand what any of the words mean.
There does come a point where importance of design starts to intersect with clarity and marketing, but I'd respectfully suggest OP is not at that point yet, and would do better to concentrate mostly on marketing.
- or indeed how to run a business!- it takes more than 1 hour to put that amount of content into this type of website
- it takes more than 1 hour to set up a template ready for the content (most clients want a template tweaked / the template will not fit directly the content needed)
- it takes more than one hour to change template colours / set up logos / sort out images for a template
- etc.
even if the work could be done in under an hour - a business could not charge £5-£10 for an hour's work and get anyone competent / pay the minimum wage / have money over for corporation tax / pay any software licences / fund the computer on which the work is done / make a profit / etc.
yes, you can use website builders where you cut and paste some text and don't care how it looks - that is not going to even produce a result such as the above website... and it will do a business no favours...
yes, I agree that marketing / the associated work is very important, however, the website has a role to play and needs to do it well...
fortunately there are not many serious businesses setting out to only spend £5-£10 on a website - if that is their approach to investment in their business they will be very lucky to succeed!
simple reality for those reading - you can not / should not build a website for a business for £5-£10 - having said that I have only been running my business for 17 years, and building websites and their predecessors since before the internet was even invented (Hypercard and Supercard anyone?!)
Lim said:
It will cost you £5-£10 to get this built on guru if that. It's a static site essentially, so language is largely irrelevant. Unless it's genuinely 2.0, having a crappy site is a differentiator these days!
Where cost comes in, is custom design. But it's unlikely to be required for trade site like this.
Clarity of info and marketing much more important.
Until recently I was using the same html site for years that was built in 2006 and looked like it. Have AB tested new sites but the old site keeps winning.
£10 for a 'static' site that has a some ecom checkout functionality, and an XML API behind it? Sounds reasonable.Where cost comes in, is custom design. But it's unlikely to be required for trade site like this.
Clarity of info and marketing much more important.
Until recently I was using the same html site for years that was built in 2006 and looked like it. Have AB tested new sites but the old site keeps winning.
It's always to tricky to quote numbers when you don't know what happens behind the scenes. You might be able to get a simple Wordpress template, and get Rajesh in India to change the logo for a few hundred quid, but what might look like a static site will most likely do a lot of other stuff you can't see!
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