London to Stuttgart - Which Porsche is quickest?
London to Stuttgart - Which Porsche is quickest?
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churchie2856

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487 posts

211 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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I recall an Autocar feature where they pitched a Ford Focus diesel against a Lamborghini Murcielago (or similar) in "race" from London to Stutgart (but it could have been Munich). The Lambo had the speed on the Autobahn, but it had to stop at least three times for fuel. The Focus only had to stop once and hence won.

I'm wondering which Porsche would be quickest. I dobut it would be a Taycan.


RedWhiteMonkey

8,227 posts

203 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Unless they are lucky with refuelling and need fuel just before starting on the unrestricted autobahn so that they can cover the final stretch without stopping I still don't think the amount of unrestricted autobahn on the route is big enough to overcome the fuel use vs speed issue. I still think it would probably be the Porsche with the biggest fuel tank being driven in a fast but not stupidly fast way, probably a Panamera.

I've seen the likes of Porsches on numerous occasions blast past me on the autobahn here in Germany only to see them later on limping off to the petrol station, thereby losing any speed/time advantage they had.

Qwerty911

87 posts

108 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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It would be interesting to see a table, by cars, for mpg @ 100mph and 155mph etc!

MDL111

8,376 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Finally it makes sense - forget the Porsches, it will be the BMW 330d (mapped)

supersport

4,530 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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But what would you rather take on a road trip, a diesel Focus or a Lambo/Ferrari/Porsche.

I know which I preferred hehe

anonymous-user

75 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Diesel Panamera. They literally litter Poland’s autostradas driven huge distances each year by well to do businessmen. Decent range from the 100l tank (1000 Kms or so) Faster to refuel if you use the black pump for hgvs.

It most certainly isn’t the cayenne gts. My last trip to the Uk required more fuel stops than in any other vehicle I’ve ever owned. Lucky to get 500 kms out of 100l of fuel at autobahn speeds smile

v8ksn

4,713 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Reminds me of a time many years ago when I saw a Maserati Merak in a petrol station. I was drooling over it and the owner said "it can go past anything apart from petrol stations" biggrin

OPOGTS

1,167 posts

234 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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churchie2856 said:
I recall an Autocar feature where they pitched a Ford Focus diesel against a Lamborghini Murcielago (or similar) in "race" from London to Stutgart (but it could have been Munich). The Lambo had the speed on the Autobahn, but it had to stop at least three times for fuel. The Focus only had to stop once and hence won.

I'm wondering which Porsche would be quickest. I dobut it would be a Taycan.

Pretty sure I remember Colin Goodwin talking about this on the Collecting Cars podcast with Chris Harris last year - a good listen if you've not come across them yet.

Wozy68

5,435 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Porsche 993 manual

Trip 1
Stuttgart to Evesham 680 miles. Started on a full tank kept her at an indicated 85MPH and stopped for fuel once.
The last forty miles from Oxford were a bit of a worry with the fuel light on but she managed it.

Total time including ferries (and a customs check) exactly 12 hours start to finish. Managed to get home before the pubs closed where a few refreshing beers finished the day off.

Trip 2.
160 plus indicated on the speedo at times on the autobahn.... lots more petrol stops but actually dont think it was any quicker or longer tbh.

otolith

64,543 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Base four cylinder Macan with the optional 75 litre fuel tank?

It's not going to be a high performance variant, I don't think.

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,108 posts

123 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Obviously it would be poppopbangbang's 911.

RDMcG

20,333 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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When I got my RS I specced the free 90 litre tank. I would think a 911 with the bigger tank would be good. Say a 2RS -one stop for fuel ?

RiccardoG

1,727 posts

293 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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My hunch would be a 911 of some sort. Then again, I would probably state this answer for almost ANY car related query. Eg: "What would you use to go on a week long camping with the whole family?" 911 of some sort... "Best car for crossing a muddy field?" 911 of some sort...So yes, I'm a dedicated 911 fanboy. hehe

But.. hear me out. The flat 6 is remarkably efficient and its a relatively light car. Traveling at speeds of up to ~100mph fuel is OK (anything over and mpg falls dramatically) = more distance covered. Some come with the option of an extended fuel tank = less stops to fuel. Its generally quite comfortable place to be (if a bit noisy) = less stops to "stretch".

So... 911 it is (something like a base 997/1/2 Carrera).

Wozy68 said:
Porsche 993 manual

Trip 1
Stuttgart to Evesham 680 miles. Started on a full tank kept her at an indicated 85MPH and stopped for fuel once.
The last forty miles from Oxford were a bit of a worry with the fuel light on but she managed it.

Total time including ferries (and a customs check) exactly 12 hours start to finish. Managed to get home before the pubs closed where a few refreshing beers finished the day off.
Googlemaps indicates 11hr20min but that allows for no stops nor tunnel waiting time, which will add another ~3hrs? Therefore 12 hrs, not bad!

Kawasicki

14,068 posts

256 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Qwerty911 said:
It would be interesting to see a table, by cars, for mpg @ 100mph and 155mph etc!
A bit old... and in my experience high speed fuel economy has improved a LOT since then.

https://www.autobild.de/bilder/was-kostet-vollgas-...

Fuel economy when flat out...
https://www.autobild.de/bilder/zehn-autos-im-vollg...

Nice table further down the page...
https://www.focus.de/auto/ratgeber/kosten/hiliste-...





braddo

12,019 posts

209 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Obviously it would be poppopbangbang's 911.
I recall one of the reasons he gave why he chose one was its high speed fuel efficiency. Something like 25mpg even at 100mph.

My Cayenne might just manage 25mpg at 50mph. Maybe even 55mph hehe

A diesel Panamera is probably the winner for the OP's question.

otolith

64,543 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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braddo said:
A diesel Panamera is probably the winner for the OP's question.
Porsche website not currently showing any diesel models at all.

Leithen

13,415 posts

288 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Roadrunner996 said:
Beaten to the punch!

The Porsche PFM 3200 obvs.

randlemarcus

13,644 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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otolith said:
braddo said:
A diesel Panamera is probably the winner for the OP's question.
Porsche website not currently showing any diesel models at all.
hurray!
Nobody said it had to be new though biggrin

jeremyc

26,768 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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My LHD 996.1 GT3 would happily get from London to the Black Forest on a single (90 litre) tank and generally not sparing the horses, so Stuttgart should be possible quite qucikly. smile