Lee Rigby's murderer
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ReverendCounter

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6,087 posts

200 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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••was originally posted in The Lounge seeing as it's a request for other people's opinions on a representation of a news item••


Hmm, The Lounge. Haven't been in here for a while - let's see how this goes.

Am I supposed to care that the killer of Lee Rigby isn't on life support but is receiving oxygen? Just heard this read out on the news on BBC 6Music. I'd be perfectly happy to hear that he's dead, although I understand that isn't what the victim's mother wants - but that comment wasn't broadcast.

Is it showing a neutral stance, to broadcast that a terrorist is receiving a type of critical care in hospital? Does anyone care that he's receiving it?

I'm interested in other people's opinions on this - what's yours?

Can I just re-iterate, do you want to be informed what sort of care he is being given?



Edited by ReverendCounter on Monday 25th January 11:18


Edited by ReverendCounter on Monday 25th January 11:19

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

68 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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He is zero benefit to society. His death will be no loss.

gruffalo

8,100 posts

250 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Biggy Stardust said:
He is zero benefit to society. His death will be no loss.
Agreed, let him die and then dump his ashes in the bin.


Richard-390a0

3,298 posts

115 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Just a clickbait story isn't it. Like anyone cares about a murderer.

ReallyReallyGood

1,641 posts

154 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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It’s just a story to get people angry, it’s not in itself news. BBC News really is turning to ste.

TheJimi

27,211 posts

267 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Shouldn't be reported, imo.

...and they should turn that oxygen off.

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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People love hearing about murderers particular when they get murdered or just die. Anything where they get what’s coming to them is even more popular.

Public hangings used to be major attractions in London down the Edgware Road at the tyburn tree.

The amount of books and tv shows about these people shows this, I expect people are fascinated by what makes these people do these things and enjoy being scared by the idea that society maybe isn’t as safe as they think?

It’s just a kind of macabre voyeurism.

Short Grain

3,432 posts

244 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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3 Treads in NP&E about dodgy headlines, or headlines designed to get a reaction. It's obviously doing what it's supposed to!

And yes, I wouldn't go out of my way to help him but Doctors and Nurses don't get that choice I'm afraid. Nor does the PC at his bedside for God knows how long wasting time!!
(mind you, he wouldn't have to chase the bd far if he tried an escape! Small Mercies eh! smile

Ntv

5,177 posts

147 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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hope the dies

don'tbesilly

15,362 posts

187 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Richard-390a0 said:
Just a clickbait story isn't it. Like anyone cares about a murderer.
I'm not sure about the story being a clickbait one given it's on the Beeb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55794...

I'd guess the Mail/Express et al are probably presenting it differently though.



mrporsche

742 posts

66 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Like him or Loathe him, the man has rights.

Muzzer79

12,715 posts

211 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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ReverendCounter said:
Am I supposed to care that the killer of Lee Rigby isn't on life support but is receiving oxygen? Just heard this read out on the news on BBC 6Music. I'd be perfectly happy to hear that he's dead, although I understand that isn't what the victim's mother wants - but that comment wasn't broadcast.

Is it showing a neutral stance, to broadcast that a terrorist is receiving a type of critical care in hospital? Does anyone care that he's receiving it?

I'm interested in other people's opinions on this - what's yours?

Can I just re-iterate, do you want to be informed what sort of care he is being given?
OK, so your question is not about whether he should receive care (like it or loathe it, he should) but whether it should be reported?

I personally don't care whether he is receiving treatment but news isn't about reporting what people care about, it's (supposed to be) about what's in the public interest.

I don't want to be informed if Katie Price shacks up with another Ken doll but media would argue it's in the public interest.

Telling the media what is in the public interest is murky territory. If you don't want to read it, don't click it.



numtumfutunch

5,110 posts

162 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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As above

Treat him but do not give him the satisfaction of ever hearing his name again

I believe NZ initiated this policy regarding one of their nutcases and it works for me


mickyh7

2,347 posts

110 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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It does seem like a waste of Oxygen though.

John145

2,730 posts

180 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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mrporsche said:
Like him or Loathe him, the man has rights.
Unfortunately...

ReverendCounter

Original Poster:

6,087 posts

200 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Muzzer79 said:
OK, so your question is not about whether he should receive care (like it or loathe it, he should) but whether it should be reported?
Based on the way that info was represented in the news I felt it was being presented in a way that we were supposed to care that this terrorist was receiving treatment.

Muzzer79 said:
If you don't want to read it, don't click it.
It was part of a news broadcast, incidentally, rather than something I searched out.




PurpleTurtle

8,684 posts

168 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Whilst I'm in the camp of 'the sooner he shuffles off this mortal coil the better' this bloke does (unfortunately) have rights so is eligible for treatment.

I saw a Daily Mail article whining that he was getting 'special' treatment in prison for it which generated the requisite mouth-frothing in the comments, but the reality is that it is the most economically sound thing to do. To have this bloke treated in a regular hospital would be a security and logistical nightmare costing far more than to pipe him a bit of oxygen in a prison hospital and cross your fingers that the Grim Reaper has him on his list.

phumy

5,820 posts

261 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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mrporsche said:
Like him or Loathe him, the man has rights.
So did Lee Rigby

rustednut

807 posts

71 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Muzzer79 said:
ReverendCounter said:
Am I supposed to care that the killer of Lee Rigby isn't on life support but is receiving oxygen? Just heard this read out on the news on BBC 6Music. I'd be perfectly happy to hear that he's dead, although I understand that isn't what the victim's mother wants - but that comment wasn't broadcast.

Is it showing a neutral stance, to broadcast that a terrorist is receiving a type of critical care in hospital? Does anyone care that he's receiving it?

I'm interested in other people's opinions on this - what's yours?

Can I just re-iterate, do you want to be informed what sort of care he is being given?
OK, so your question is not about whether he should receive care (like it or loathe it, he should) but whether it should be reported?

I personally don't care whether he is receiving treatment but news isn't about reporting what people care about, it's (supposed to be) about what's in the public interest.

I don't want to be informed if Katie Price shacks up with another Ken doll but media would argue it's in the public interest.

Telling the media what is in the public interest is murky territory. If you don't want to read it, don't click it.
This.

I also don't care if he is receiving treatment.

From my point of view the less publicity he gets the less any radicals can get radicalised by. They want him to die for his cause, whether the majority of us like that or not, so ultimately keeping him alive frustrates that very ideal.

Would prefer it not to be reported but clicks = revenue. Simply, don't click.

Fastchas

2,798 posts

145 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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numtumfutunch said:
As above

Treat him but do not give him the satisfaction of ever hearing his name again

I believe NZ initiated this policy regarding one of their nutcases and it works for me
He changed his name before being sent to a psychiatric unit.