Box tunnel pushed under railway nr Peterborough
Box tunnel pushed under railway nr Peterborough
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saaby93

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32,038 posts

201 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Anyone have a better video than this showing what they were pushing it under and how that was supported?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-cambridge...
Why the musak smash

Flying Phil

1,710 posts

168 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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I think this technique has been used before. I'm sure the second tunnel for the A43 went under the M1 in a similar manner way back in the 1990's?

RyanOPlasty

867 posts

231 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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This technique has been used before, but I don't think it has been done on a curved tunnel or one so long in this country.

Simpo Two

91,410 posts

288 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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saaby93 said:
Why the musak smash
Because captions and musak are cheaper than a VO and easier to do.

mcdjl

5,695 posts

218 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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saaby93 said:
Anyone have a better video than this showing what they were pushing it under and how that was supported?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-cambridge...
Why the musak smash
Becuase its the BBc and they assume that people
A) wont look at anything not accompanied by a video
b)can't read anything unless its on a video
c) can't watch a video (or do anything) unless accompanied by awful musak.

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

201 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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mcdjl said:
saaby93 said:
Anyone have a better video than this showing what they were pushing it under and how that was supported?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-cambridge...
Why the musak smash
Becuase its the BBc and they assume that people
A) wont look at anything not accompanied by a video
b)can't read anything unless its on a video
c) can't watch a video (or do anything) unless accompanied by awful musak.
and why is it compared the eiffel tower confused
Why not the size of Wales

mcdjl

5,695 posts

218 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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saaby93 said:
and why is it compared the eiffel tower confused
Why not the size of Wales
It should be nelsons column, double decker buses, or elephants.

normalbloke

8,507 posts

242 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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mcdjl said:
saaby93 said:
and why is it compared the eiffel tower confused
Why not the size of Wales
It should be nelsons column, double decker buses, or elephants.
But how many Pringles tubes is that?

MinionBob

71 posts

62 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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normalbloke said:
But how many Pringles tubes is that?
55 million laugh

Chrisgr31

14,217 posts

278 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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saaby93 said:
Anyone have a better video than this showing what they were pushing it under and how that was supported?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-cambridge...
Why the musak smash
The answer is it wasn’t pushed under at all! There are some great videos on the Network Rail Twitter feed on how they did this. They basically moved 2 small tunnels parallel to each other under the railway. In each of the tunnels they laid a rail. In the meantime next to the line they built a huge concrete 3 sided box (2 walls and a roof there was no floor) the walls of which were sitting on an extension to the mentioned rails. The base of the box as built was a totally separate concrete pad, with what you might call gouges in the floor.

When the tunnels were complete and the box ready they closed the railway and dug a box shaped hole in it. They then used rams which were secured against the gouges in the concrete pad to push the box along the rails. Until it filled the gap in the railway above. They then relaid the railway above the box and reopened it. They can continue working in the box to lay the new line that goes under it.

I have forgotten how long the line over the top was closed for - maybe a long weekend. Under traditional methods it would have been closed for months whilst they dug out the line, built the walls for a bridge, build a bridge deck then relaid the railway above.

xx99xx

2,711 posts

96 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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Similar thing, albeit smaller scale, with construction of Jubilee River (Maidenhead): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_River.

They froze the embankment, dug it away and pushed in some pre cast concrete culverts, all underneath a main line rail and the M4 fully open.

Ian Lancs

1,155 posts

189 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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normalbloke said:
mcdjl said:
saaby93 said:
and why is it compared the eiffel tower confused
Why not the size of Wales
It should be nelsons column, double decker buses, or elephants.
But how many Pringles tubes is that?
What about Olympic size swimming pools?

DanMalkin

46 posts

111 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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'Similar' system to the Autoripage system that Osborne utilised in October 2002 to slide the Shortland Junction box into place. Very interesting scheme to be involved in and at the time it was the longest box push ever attempted.

It's great as a Civil Engineer in Railways to see innovation in the Rail Sector. We've traditionally ben forced to follow established practices rather than embrace new technologies.

However - I still love working on historic structures! Looking forward to Barmouth Timber Viaduct Phase 2 in September 2021