V8 Vantage Values
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FWIW I think most of the 'standard' cars will continue to drift gently down in value if only due to production numbers. Of course some of the specials ('real' specials, not just the ones with loads of stickers but little else) may do better.
Drive 'em, enjoy 'em.
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FWIW I think most of the 'standard' cars will continue to drift gently down in value if only due to production numbers. Of course some of the specials ('real' specials, not just the ones with loads of stickers but little else) may do better.
Drive 'em, enjoy 'em.
A 15 year old Vantage might be about £25,000.
A 15 year old Jaguar XK8 - there are several for sale under £10,000, one at £4,000.
Therefore, history says don't worry too much, but who knows what the future holds.
Aston Martins are wonderful cars to own.
The model to have is the limited edition V12 Vantage. A car like that will never be made again.
I think the VH2/3/4 cars have pretty much hit rock bottom. If they haven't I'm not sure how much further they can go. Will they increase? perhaps but this will be driven by demand more than anything else.
Presently I feel these cars offer excellent value for money. Dont buy into them thinking or hoping they will increase, if you can afford to own/run one then go for it, they are still one of the best looking cars around even by todays standards. Don't buy one thinking they are fast, they aren't by modern standards but they are quick in stock form and can be made quicker but it costs!
Enjoy the car, enjoy the driving experience, it is an analogue car in feel compared to modern bore boxes you find in the new car showrooms.
Presently I feel these cars offer excellent value for money. Dont buy into them thinking or hoping they will increase, if you can afford to own/run one then go for it, they are still one of the best looking cars around even by todays standards. Don't buy one thinking they are fast, they aren't by modern standards but they are quick in stock form and can be made quicker but it costs!
Enjoy the car, enjoy the driving experience, it is an analogue car in feel compared to modern bore boxes you find in the new car showrooms.
Generalising a bit, however in my humble opinion and with the OP's question in mind..
Manual over Sportshift
6 speed over 7 speed
S over non S
V12 over V8 (fewer made, more power, but possibly flabbier handling ?)
4.7 over 4.3 (more power, better interior, cool glass key)
Sportpack over standard (nicer wheels ? much better suspension, ARB)
Coupe over Roadster
So - V12S manual or V8S manual coupe
Then 4.7 Sportpack coupe
4.7 Standard coupe
4.3
All up for debate, depending on what you like/own - pass the popcorn !
Edit - if you can find one, get one that's had a rear subframe restoration.
Manual over Sportshift
6 speed over 7 speed
S over non S
V12 over V8 (fewer made, more power, but possibly flabbier handling ?)
4.7 over 4.3 (more power, better interior, cool glass key)
Sportpack over standard (nicer wheels ? much better suspension, ARB)
Coupe over Roadster
So - V12S manual or V8S manual coupe
Then 4.7 Sportpack coupe
4.7 Standard coupe
4.3
All up for debate, depending on what you like/own - pass the popcorn !
Edit - if you can find one, get one that's had a rear subframe restoration.
Edited by JonnyCJ on Tuesday 26th January 16:23
Personally I think they will continue to decline in value as they are reaching a level where the 'fast and furious' brigade get them and wish to 'max-power' them by bolting loads of cheap crap on and 'good' servicing goes out the window which lowers the desirability and price which tends to bring others down with them. I was on a Face-ache forum with modified Astons and some of them were pretty awful tbh as was the attitude of some and I left. I can't see them going up at anytime.
Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 26th January 17:05
macdeb said:
Personally I think they will continue to decline in value as they are reaching a level where the 'fast and furious' brigade get them and wish to 'max-power' them by bolting loads of cheap crap on and 'good' servicing goes out the window which lowers the desirability and price which tends to bring others down with them. I was on a Face-ache forum with modified Astons and some of them were pretty awful tbh as was the attitude of some and I left. I can't see them going up at anytime.
Meaning low mileage original examples should hold their value against these mutilated ones. Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 26th January 17:05
I would have thought the cost of doing things to an Aston would prohibit most from being able to afford to do it.
I obviously stand to be corrected.
BiggaJ said:
Meaning low mileage original examples should hold their value against these mutilated ones.
I would have thought the cost of doing things to an Aston would prohibit most from being able to afford to do it.
I obviously stand to be corrected.
Nope, I am with you 100%. I guess a fair number of prospective owners would like to be distanced from the McDonalds Car Park crowd? I hadn't realised just how messed up some of those poor cars have become. The icing on the cake has got to be adding a pop and bang map? If I am honest, I discovered this trend after buying, and have since questioned whether I made the right decision... I would have thought the cost of doing things to an Aston would prohibit most from being able to afford to do it.
I obviously stand to be corrected.
In terms of running costs, and I hope I am way off, I suspect that the market for cheap spares will make theft a problem in the not too distant future, especially as more and more find their way into ditches and the owner is unable to afford to repair thorugh the normal channels...
/rant over
AM V8's too mass produced to hold significant value, unless you get a special edition. As mentioned above, the entry level vantages are affordable for most people (price of new golf), get a shock with a service or bill, panic, sell. New owner does the same and the depreciation accelerates, due to borkability.
JJbing said:
AM V8's too mass produced to hold significant value, unless you get a special edition. As mentioned above, the entry level vantages are affordable for most people (price of new golf), get a shock with a service or bill, panic, sell. New owner does the same and the depreciation accelerates, due to borkability.
I still maintain a similarity between Vantage and Porsche 993, with the Vantage approx 10yrs behind the 993 in terms of age. Not sure how many 993s were made, but pretty sure it’s significantly more than the Vantage. Both have their model quirks within the ranges - roadster, cabrio, Targa, N420, S, V12, Turbo, SS, Tiptronic etc etc.Plus, Aston Martin has the James Bond connotation - wait until No Time to Die finally hits the screens and I reckon it’ll reinvigorate the brand’s image and desirability.
xstaticx said:
BiggaJ said:
Meaning low mileage original examples should hold their value against these mutilated ones.
I would have thought the cost of doing things to an Aston would prohibit most from being able to afford to do it.
I obviously stand to be corrected.
Nope, I am with you 100%. I guess a fair number of prospective owners would like to be distanced from the McDonalds Car Park crowd? I hadn't realised just how messed up some of those poor cars have become. The icing on the cake has got to be adding a pop and bang map? If I am honest, I discovered this trend after buying, and have since questioned whether I made the right decision... I would have thought the cost of doing things to an Aston would prohibit most from being able to afford to do it.
I obviously stand to be corrected.
In terms of running costs, and I hope I am way off, I suspect that the market for cheap spares will make theft a problem in the not too distant future, especially as more and more find their way into ditches and the owner is unable to afford to repair thorugh the normal channels...
/rant over
JonnyCJ said:
JJbing said:
AM V8's too mass produced to hold significant value, unless you get a special edition. As mentioned above, the entry level vantages are affordable for most people (price of new golf), get a shock with a service or bill, panic, sell. New owner does the same and the depreciation accelerates, due to borkability.
I still maintain a similarity between Vantage and Porsche 993, with the Vantage approx 10yrs behind the 993 in terms of age. Not sure how many 993s were made, but pretty sure it’s significantly more than the Vantage. Both have their model quirks within the ranges - roadster, cabrio, Targa, N420, S, V12, Turbo, SS, Tiptronic etc etc.Plus, Aston Martin has the James Bond connotation - wait until No Time to Die finally hits the screens and I reckon it’ll reinvigorate the brand’s image and desirability.
Mass produced cars go through 7 phases:
1. New with waiting list: cost above list
2. Current model: slow depreciation
3. Model replaced: fast depreciation
4. Plebs get one: cheap to buy, pricey to maintain, so people don’t, quality plummets, so do prices
5. Good ones scarce: prices start to creep up
6. Nostalgic & scarce: prices start climb
7: Classic: best one bought by collectors, prices high.
You can pretty much bet on 35 years to get to stage 6, since this is how long it takes the for people who loved them as kids to grow up and be in a position to indulge their nostalgia. To get to 7 there has to be something special and noteworthy about the car, as well as rare.
I think the V8 Vantage is in 4 and in 10 years will be in 5. If you can hang on 20 years I reckon the best models will be in 6/7 and you’ll see a £200k V12V being advertised.
1. New with waiting list: cost above list
2. Current model: slow depreciation
3. Model replaced: fast depreciation
4. Plebs get one: cheap to buy, pricey to maintain, so people don’t, quality plummets, so do prices
5. Good ones scarce: prices start to creep up
6. Nostalgic & scarce: prices start climb
7: Classic: best one bought by collectors, prices high.
You can pretty much bet on 35 years to get to stage 6, since this is how long it takes the for people who loved them as kids to grow up and be in a position to indulge their nostalgia. To get to 7 there has to be something special and noteworthy about the car, as well as rare.
I think the V8 Vantage is in 4 and in 10 years will be in 5. If you can hang on 20 years I reckon the best models will be in 6/7 and you’ll see a £200k V12V being advertised.
xstaticx said:
Nope, I am with you 100%. I guess a fair number of prospective owners would like to be distanced from the McDonalds Car Park crowd? I hadn't realised just how messed up some of those poor cars have become. The icing on the cake has got to be adding a pop and bang map? If I am honest, I discovered this trend after buying, and have since questioned whether I made the right decision...
In terms of running costs, and I hope I am way off, I suspect that the market for cheap spares will make theft a problem in the not too distant future, especially as more and more find their way into ditches and the owner is unable to afford to repair thorugh the normal channels...
/rant over
You didn't make the wrong decision unless you bought one of those McDonald car park cars, which I doubt you did. In terms of running costs, and I hope I am way off, I suspect that the market for cheap spares will make theft a problem in the not too distant future, especially as more and more find their way into ditches and the owner is unable to afford to repair thorugh the normal channels...
/rant over
Most of those guys would plump for and Audi/VW or BMW of a certain vintage surely.
There is mass producing and MASS producing and Porsche lead the way in this segment of car. But I do agree cars like the VH2 vintage have some years to go before they see any real sustained increase in value.
67Dino said:
Mass produced cars go through 7 phases:
1. New with waiting list: cost above list
2. Current model: slow depreciation
3. Model replaced: fast depreciation
4. Plebs get one: cheap to buy, pricey to maintain, so people don’t, quality plummets, so do prices
5. Good ones scarce: prices start to creep up
6. Nostalgic & scarce: prices start climb
7: Classic: best one bought by collectors, prices high.
You lost my interest at " Plebs" 1. New with waiting list: cost above list
2. Current model: slow depreciation
3. Model replaced: fast depreciation
4. Plebs get one: cheap to buy, pricey to maintain, so people don’t, quality plummets, so do prices
5. Good ones scarce: prices start to creep up
6. Nostalgic & scarce: prices start climb
7: Classic: best one bought by collectors, prices high.
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