Challenger Disaster - 35 Years Ago Today 28 January
Challenger Disaster - 35 Years Ago Today 28 January
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Eric Mc

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287 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Hard to believe that 35 years has passed since this tragedy. Thought I'd post up a reminder.

I know the event has been talked about in various PH forums before but often in the context of documentary or drama TV shows about the accident.




GliderRider

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103 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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One of those events that you remember exactly where you were when you first heard or found out about it.

Until that Challenger, the US had had a good record in spaceflight safety (excluding ground accidents).

bucksmanuk

2,392 posts

192 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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A topic discussed in engineering ethics for engineering degree courses far and wide.
The issue being it was the Morton-Thiokol engineers who designed it warning about the high potential risk, it was the non-technical management who pushed for launch. Maybe it should be explained to those doing an MBA instead of those doing a B.Sc.?
And who can forget Feynman’s laser logic in describing what happens with O-ring rubber in iced water as to where the problem may lie?
https://youtu.be/raMmRKGkGD4
Undergraduate material science - glass transition temperatures of polymer rubber
How could they be so stupid?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

283 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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GliderRider said:
One of those events that you remember exactly where you were when you first heard or found out about it.

Until that Challenger, the US had had a good record in spaceflight safety (excluding ground accidents).
They'd been very lucky with the shuttle up to that point.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 28th January 2021
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Indeed they were. And even with the additional safety features introduced after the Challenger accident, it remained dangerous.

GliderRider

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103 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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The list of non-astronaut spaceflight-related fatalities makes pretty sobering reading.

Starts at about half way down the page: Non astronaut fatalities


Eric Mc

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Friday 29th January 2021
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That was indeed very sobering.

As I keep saying, using rockets to get you from A to B will never be routine or safe.

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

301 months

Friday 5th February 2021
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GliderRider said:
One of those events that you remember exactly where you were when you first heard or found out about it.
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Yep, on stag in a sentry box at Sennybridge Camp in my case.

anonymous-user

76 months

Sunday 7th February 2021
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If you haven't read it, Riding Rockets by Mike Mullane is a pretty gripping warts and all story of the perils, both real and political, of being an astronaut on the Space Shuttle program., highly recommended.




The parts that cover the lead up to the launch, the failure and the recovery/investigation of Challenger are quite moving and well written.



eharding

14,648 posts

306 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Max_Torque said:
If you haven't read it, Riding Rockets by Mike Mullane is a pretty gripping warts and all story of the perils, both real and political, of being an astronaut on the Space Shuttle program., highly recommended.




The parts that cover the lead up to the launch, the failure and the recovery/investigation of Challenger are quite moving and well written.
Very much so. A great read. The "No plans past MECO" phrase demonstrates how sanguine they were, but also how painfully aware of how much a risk flying in the Shuttle was.

Eric Mc

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Monday 8th February 2021
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One of the best astronaut biogs, in my opinion - brutally honest and very revealing.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 28th January
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And today we mark the 40th Anniversary.

CSR Performance

229 posts

10 months

Wednesday 28th January
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Wow. 40 years. I remember seeing it on the news frown

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 28th January
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Famously, it was first reported on British TV through BBC's Newsround - it was the era before 24 hour news coverage in the UK.

Later that evening (around 7 pm) BBC ran a "Newsnight Special" which discussed what might have caused the accident.

Interestingly, spaceflight journalist Tim Furniss (who went on to have some very strange ideas about this accident) was the one who almost got it right. He actually stated that one of the SRB's might not have been firing properly) which was pretty much correct.

I found this short clip from that specific broadcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2pMZOPPE_Y

Sadly, most of the people who took part in the programme (including Tim Furniss) are no longer with us - apart from the presenter, Peter Snow.

Channel 4 are running a documentary on the accident tonight at 10pm.


Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 28th January 12:01

rufusruffcutt

1,549 posts

227 months

Wednesday 28th January
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I can highly recommend the Adam Higginbotham book "Challenger: A True Story of Heroism and Disaster on the Edge of Space"

Eric Mc

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Thursday 29th January
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I turned over to Channel 4 last night at 10.00 pm and instead of a Challenger documentary all I could see was some stupid nonsense about Brooklyn Beckham.

Probably a sign of the times as to where the great British public's interests lie these days.

Simpo Two

90,977 posts

287 months

Thursday 29th January
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Eric Mc said:
I turned over to Channel 4 last night at 10.00 pm and instead of a Challenger documentary all I could see was some stupid nonsense about Brooklyn Beckham.

Probably a sign of the times as to where the great British public's interests lie these days.
Indeed; I was at a small gathering yesterday and just as me and another chap were two sentences into an interesting discussion about Bentleys, his wife cut him dead and changed the subject to 'Traitors'. So the women yattered about that utter drivel and we went and did something else.

sjc

15,660 posts

292 months

Thursday 29th January
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Eric Mc said:
I turned over to Channel 4 last night at 10.00 pm and instead of a Challenger documentary all I could see was some stupid nonsense about Brooklyn Beckham.

Probably a sign of the times as to where the great British public's interests lie these days.
Me too !

Eric Mc

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Thursday 29th January
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It's on Channel 4s streaming service at least so you can watch it at if you want..

itcaptainslow

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158 months

Thursday 29th January
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Eric Mc said:
It's on Channel 4s streaming service at least so you can watch it at if you want..
Is this the documentary that was on Netflix (which is excellent, by the way) or another?