Operation Eagle Claw
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bitchstewie

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64,412 posts

233 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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I'm wary of posting this sort of thing in case it's a bit waltish.

Operation Eagle Claw

Decent read. Seems those Chuck Norris films weren't far off the mark yikes

IanH755

2,630 posts

143 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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A simple case of a plan with far too many moving parts which required every single one to work correctly for it to be a success when even in the best circumstances there will always be some failure points.

Despite it being a failure, the embarrassment it caused the nation and the military caused the US to fundamentally restructure everything about their SF training, tactics & procedures whilst creating a whole new command just to cut-out the "corporate mentality" in-fighting that directly led to part of the operations failure leading to a far better force than one that bravely attempted Eagle Claw.

Simpo Two

91,409 posts

288 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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'Every plan fails in contact with the enemy'.

Not Clinton's finest hour, but st happens.

Eric Mc

124,820 posts

288 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Simpo Two said:
'Every plan fails in contact with the enemy'.

Not Clinton's finest hour, but st happens.
What involvement did Clinton (Bill, I guess) have in this operation?

Or did you mean Carter?

Simpo Two

91,409 posts

288 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Eric Mc said:
Or did you mean Carter?
Oh sorry, got my Democrats mixed up smile Somebody beginning with C who wouldn't know one end of a gun from the other!

andy97

4,780 posts

245 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Eric Mc said:
Or did you mean Carter?
Oh sorry, got my Democrats mixed up smile Somebody beginning with C who wouldn't know one end of a gun from the other!
Carter was a former US Navy nuclear engineer so probably had a better grounding in military ops than many politicians.

IanH755

2,630 posts

143 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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andy97 said:
Simpo Two said:
Eric Mc said:
Or did you mean Carter?
Oh sorry, got my Democrats mixed up smile Somebody beginning with C who wouldn't know one end of a gun from the other!
Carter was a former US Navy nuclear engineer so probably had a better grounding in military ops than many politicians.
I'd also say it took some very rarely seen mettle, not typical of most politicians, to OK an operation as risky as this was and then accept 100% responsibility for the outcome without trying to throw the military under the bus.

DavieBNL

307 posts

86 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Eric Mc said:
Or did you mean Carter?
Oh sorry, got my Democrats mixed up smile Somebody beginning with C who wouldn't know one end of a gun from the other!
What makes you say that...about Carter?

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

302 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Happened about the same time as the SAS Iranian embassy attack which rubbed a bit of salt into American wounds.

Leon R

3,695 posts

119 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Just imagine if they had pulled off the follow up operation Credible Sport.

That would have been an epic story to tell.

Countdown

47,449 posts

219 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Ayahuasca said:
Happened about the same time as the SAS Iranian embassy attack which rubbed a bit of salt into American wounds.
To be fair they were slightly different in terms of ambition.

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

302 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Countdown said:
Ayahuasca said:
Happened about the same time as the SAS Iranian embassy attack which rubbed a bit of salt into American wounds.
To be fair they were slightly different in terms of ambition.
Yes.

TRIUMPHBULLET

711 posts

136 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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This would have been incredible if it had worked properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1IeV98Ul8

But the technology was not quite enough to guarantee success.